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re: Honest question for the Posi crowd
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:01 pm to Nature Boy
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:01 pm to Nature Boy
Go frick yourself with this posi/nega gay bullshite. Just popped in to say that.
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Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:02 pm to Nature Boy
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And I've intentionally taken some time off the board
You should probably take some more until you accept the fact the CLM isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:03 pm to zoom
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zoom
Just.
Greatness.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:03 pm to Nature Boy
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What would it take for you to truly think enough is enough and it's time for change? I know we flame the shite out of each other on this board, and it's fun. But seriously, at what point do you start to think LSU can do better?
The thing you're not getting is that the question of should MIles perhaps go and who should be send in to replace him are two equally important questions.
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Or would you be satisfied not winning the sec and playing in an upper/middle tier bowl game every year as long as they don't drop below 8-9 wins?
Defined satisfied. Again, it's not as if the alternative to do better is obvious and immediately attainable.
Winning 11-12/year with a trip to the playoffs expected every 3 years, which I think is the baseline expectation for satisfaction around here. I just don't think that is reasonable unless you have a coach named Saban, Meyer, Carroll, or you luck into the next one of those.
Les is not on par with the guys I just listed. But pretty much no one else is either and pretty much every time someone has made the move you're suggesting, and that's happened a number of times, they've gone backward.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:05 pm to tduecen
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However, Les is still the coach of the team and supporting the team means supporting Les. If you are wanting Les to fail then you want LSU to fail and how much of a fan are you really?
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If Les fails again and only wins 8 games but loses to Alabama, Ole Miss, Arkansas, etc then get rid of him. I am all for Herman coming to LSU but to bitch and moan at this point is really just pointless and the sign of someone who is miserable.
I could not said it better myself.
What happened has happened and nothing will change it till the end on next season at earliest.
Get over it
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:12 pm to Nature Boy
no one I know of is happy with this year.
if you are young you may not know that changing coaches is a crap shoot. the possibilities of paying out 15 mil and then the new coaches buy out and then the asst coaches buy outs (approx. 25 million dollars) and then getting a coach that is no better or worse is real. that scares some people.
miles has had a damn good 11 year record. yes, 3 of his last four were not acceptable and imo he should have a chance to get back to the pinnacle. and i'm not alone it appears.
no matter what you say coaches that win 80% of their games in the SEC west do not grow on trees and most of those that could are probably not available. these "johnny come lately's" are not nears as impressive to folks that have been around awhile as they are to young people. kevin sumlin was one of those and look at him now. this Hermann guy at UH simply hasen't been successful long enough to judge properly.
every year, there is a new set of "johnny come latelys" that pop up and many turn out not to be so great. remember the buffalo coach just a coupla years ago? hottest thing since sliced bread and now no one remembers his name.
if you are young you may not know that changing coaches is a crap shoot. the possibilities of paying out 15 mil and then the new coaches buy out and then the asst coaches buy outs (approx. 25 million dollars) and then getting a coach that is no better or worse is real. that scares some people.
miles has had a damn good 11 year record. yes, 3 of his last four were not acceptable and imo he should have a chance to get back to the pinnacle. and i'm not alone it appears.
no matter what you say coaches that win 80% of their games in the SEC west do not grow on trees and most of those that could are probably not available. these "johnny come lately's" are not nears as impressive to folks that have been around awhile as they are to young people. kevin sumlin was one of those and look at him now. this Hermann guy at UH simply hasen't been successful long enough to judge properly.
every year, there is a new set of "johnny come latelys" that pop up and many turn out not to be so great. remember the buffalo coach just a coupla years ago? hottest thing since sliced bread and now no one remembers his name.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:12 pm to tduecen
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Everyone knows LSU has an issue on offense, people hope this is the final wake up for Les Miles (Saban changed his offense at an older age) so hopefully it works
I think it may be too late. I could be wrong, but I think we're an OC AND a QB away from a good offense. This IMO would take at least 2 years, probably 3.
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Can things change? Yes they can, LSU can run the table this year, no one knows what happens but it is much easier to be positive about next year with a group of older, more experienced players than it is to bitch and moan all year.
If Beckwith and White go pro, I don't see how you can expect a championship caliber defense to take the field. Who is going to play LB? I really don't see our offense carrying us either. Our only hope IMO is if other SEC West teams really strike out at replacing their QB's and we manage to beat Ole Miss.
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The SEC as a whole is better than it was during the 2000-2010 seasons
I disagree here. The SEC East is seriously one of the worst divisions in the nation right now, and Alabama is the only arguably great team in the West. Even then, Alabama is definitely beatable. There aren't really any abysmal teams in the West though. They are all capable given the right circumstances, I'll give you that. On the other hand though, they are also capable of losing to Toledo, going to OT with JSU, losing handily to Memphis, etc.
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If Les fails again and only wins 8 games but loses to Alabama, Ole Miss, Arkansas, etc then get rid of him
I don't see why who the losses come to really matter. Sure, it would suck to see sustained losses to Arkansas, Alabama, and Ole Miss. However, I don't think it would be any better to come out flat against inferior teams and lose those games instead. I think 10 wins needs to be the bottom line, but I can see an argument for 9 wins and one last year of hope.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:19 pm to Nature Boy
I was ready for a change this past year....however, aside from qb and possible underclass losses......I'm excited to see how les responds to the hot seat....bdp gotta go....but other sec teams lose a shitload this year namely bama and the black bears....and dak gone.
I'd say it obviously depends on how we play....but anything worse than 10-2 and its time IMO.
In 11 years....he has lost 3 or more about half the time. He is overdue.
I'd say it obviously depends on how we play....but anything worse than 10-2 and its time IMO.
In 11 years....he has lost 3 or more about half the time. He is overdue.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:21 pm to Nature Boy
Uhh, name one coach ever who wins the sec each year.
I hate you idiots, and i wanted fischer over miles.
I bet that 2 sec championchips in 10 years ranks well amongst sec's most ballyhooed coaches.
Nick Saban's doing stuff unprecedented, and he stands alone as the top. But that doesnt mean that Miles sucks.
So much stupid on this board. We will be better next year.
Lets see how many other sec coaches won 2 sec championships in a 10 year span.
Maybe spurrier, urban, saban, bear bryant. Who else?
I hate you idiots, and i wanted fischer over miles.
I bet that 2 sec championchips in 10 years ranks well amongst sec's most ballyhooed coaches.
Nick Saban's doing stuff unprecedented, and he stands alone as the top. But that doesnt mean that Miles sucks.
So much stupid on this board. We will be better next year.
Lets see how many other sec coaches won 2 sec championships in a 10 year span.
Maybe spurrier, urban, saban, bear bryant. Who else?
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:24 pm to zoom
Good god the grammar. Obviously you are a well educated and affluent member of society and I certainly have the highest regard for your opinion. Lmao...jk
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:25 pm to LSUsuperfresh
Honestly, if we would have hired Jimbo we would've been happy too. We just like to support LSU instead of ruining a message board.
I was a negatiger until about 08. I wanted Les's head after the Tennessee home loss in 05. I still get mad about losses but as a positiger I can get over the loss a lot faster.
I think 90% of positigers know Jimbo would have been an awesome hire but we aren't going to jump ship.
I was a negatiger until about 08. I wanted Les's head after the Tennessee home loss in 05. I still get mad about losses but as a positiger I can get over the loss a lot faster.
I think 90% of positigers know Jimbo would have been an awesome hire but we aren't going to jump ship.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:27 pm to zoom
Posi tigers are the bastards who never quit, ever.
Negas are definitely pussy little crybabies, whiney men. And delusional to boot, as if teams wont suffer losses. Let me tell you, the ladies dont like that - dont assume your wife isnt getting banged while your gone, if you got one.
You putting bad karma on yourself.
By the way, negatigers butthurt for bama is like penis envy. You little wimps.
By the way bama got smoked in the natty last year. But go ahead and worship them you damn negatigers.
Negas are definitely pussy little crybabies, whiney men. And delusional to boot, as if teams wont suffer losses. Let me tell you, the ladies dont like that - dont assume your wife isnt getting banged while your gone, if you got one.
You putting bad karma on yourself.
By the way, negatigers butthurt for bama is like penis envy. You little wimps.
By the way bama got smoked in the natty last year. But go ahead and worship them you damn negatigers.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:29 pm to LSUGlory16
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I think 90% of positigers know Jimbo would have been an awesome hire but we aren't going to jump ship
I wanted Jimbo bad too. I'm not jumping ship, I'm just tempering my expectations based upon recent results and I'm not happy about it. I still hope we win every game and will still attend 5-6 games per year. I've just accepted that we will not likely compete for championships anymore until the Miles' era has concluded.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:31 pm to tduecen
Good post except strongly disagree on Harris being compared to Flynn....Flynn was a baller when the Chips were down...Harris is 180 from that...in fact..he was terrible even in their win over a&m. He had a deer in headlight look his last 4 games....I think he will do fine until we play bama next year....then we gotta look at where his confidence is in that game. Jmo
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:31 pm to LSUsuperfresh
quote:LSU lost Patrick Peterson, Joseph Barksdale, Kelvin Shepard, Stevan Ridley, Drake Nevis, Lazrius washington, Richard Murphy, Jai Eugene, and Terrance Tolliver from the 2010 and managed to go 12-0 in 2011....
If Beckwith and White go pro, I don't see how you can expect a championship caliber defense to take the field. Who is going to play LB? I really don't see our offense carrying us either. Our only hope IMO is if other SEC West teams really strike out at replacing their QB's and we manage to beat Ole Miss.
quote:I don't look at recruiting rankings, teams are recruiting better. Freeze, Mullen, Bielma, Sumlin, etc have stepped up their game on the recruiting front. There may be more parity across the board but the top teams are no longer dominating in recruiting, it is more evenly spread out.
I disagree here. The SEC East is seriously one of the worst divisions in the nation right now, and Alabama is the only arguably great team in the West. Even then, Alabama is definitely beatable. There aren't really any abysmal teams in the West though. They are all capable given the right circumstances, I'll give you that. On the other hand though, they are also capable of losing to Toledo, going to OT with JSU, losing handily to Memphis, etc.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:35 pm to Nature Boy
quote:I don't worry about crap like that. Nobody's more miserable than an armchair AD; it's way more fun to eat, drink, drink, drink, drink, root for the Tigers, and drive a scenic route home while you sober up.
What would it take for you to truly think enough is enough and it's time for change?
We have the coolest school located on the coolest campus, and we get to drink outside on said campus on gamedays, our chicks are hotter than anyone else's chicks, our dicks are bigger than anybody else's dicks, and our food tastes better than anybody else's food. The fact that the football team kicks arse more often than not is gravy with Tony's in it.
Les is here, and he's not done kicking arse. One day there'll be another guy, and he'll kick a truckload of arse, too. Don't worry. Be happy. Geaux Tigers.
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:37 pm to P bean
Spurrier for sure but that was a much different era. Ssban wins today he has 4 in 9 years...if not..only 3.....
I know I don't like the what if...but damn its so damn close to miles andcsaban reversed....okie st doesnt miss easy fg in 11 and chavis doesn't prevent against bama in 12 and LSU and miles very very likely gave 3 nc.....and saban 1 at bama
I know I don't like the what if...but damn its so damn close to miles andcsaban reversed....okie st doesnt miss easy fg in 11 and chavis doesn't prevent against bama in 12 and LSU and miles very very likely gave 3 nc.....and saban 1 at bama
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:37 pm to tduecen
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LSU lost Patrick Peterson, Joseph Barksdale, Kelvin Shepard, Stevan Ridley, Drake Nevis, Lazrius washington, Richard Murphy, Jai Eugene, and Terrance Tolliver from the 2010 and managed to go 12-0 in 2011...
It's not so much about who we're losing, it's who's going to replace them. I just don't think we're going to field a formidable group of LB's and I think our defense is going to suffer. Also, I don't think having Steele as our DC is helping matters either.
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:38 pm to ballscaster
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our dicks are bigger than anybody else's dicks
Posted on 12/5/15 at 4:39 pm to LSUsuperfresh
Beckwith is absolute key...everyone else replaceable
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