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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Naptime
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:26 pm to
Has happened with both positions
Posted by DRock88
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:35 pm to
None of the guys you named consistently throw a quality 3rd pitch. Do they have a 3rd pitch? Yes. But, they're only throwing 2 pitches on 90% of their deliveries. Most major leaguers don't even have 3 quality pitches. Fontenot rarely has an issue with getting hit around - it's the walks that hurt him.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:46 pm to
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You really don’t know what you are talking about.


Ok I’ll bite. Question - what makes an effective starter in College Baseball, or at any level for that matter?

Placement (control), movement (spin rate), speed variation, and power.

Fontenot overpowers batters. His best pitch is a tailing FB that ‘rises’ to the top of the zone. That’s the kill shot. Once they time up the fastball, the gig is up. This year was worse because his control was down, along w/ the pitch location. SEC hitters were waiting for a mistake down Main Street. In the 2nd outing of the weekend, he was prone to oblige.

If we’re gonna rely on Fontenot for 3-4 innings over a 3 pitch Coleman, Edwards, or Hellmers - we got bigger problems.

Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:56 pm to
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None of the guys you named consistently throw a quality 3rd pitch


bullshite - Leiter didn’t have 2 different breaking pitches at varying speeds? You know the difference btw a 2 seam and 4 seam FB and how it moves? They call a change up a change up for s reason.

Sims had a killer Change.

Remember the rag arm that stifled LSU for Gonzaga? 3 pitches.
Posted by BourreTheDog
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Most major leaguers don't even have 3 quality pitches.


Kevin Gausman would disagree.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:01 pm to
Jacob threw 3 pitches for strikes.

Leiter rarely throws the 2nd breaking ball and change.

Sims - 2 pitch guy. Will show a 3rd.

What is the point that you're trying to make? You have to know how to throw more than 2 pitches? Do you not think Fontenot knows how to throw more than 2 pitches?
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Kevin Gausman would disagree.


Ok. What's your point? He's an all star. Most major leaguers aren't all stars.
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:17 pm to
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What is the point that you're trying to make?


Successful SEC Weekend starters have an arsenal in their bag. Fontenot needs to perfect the slider before attempting to develop a 3rd pitch like some posting are attempting to rationalize.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 5:56 pm
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Ok. What's your point? He's an all star. Most major leaguers aren't all stars.


He credits this yrs success to the ability to perfect MULTIPLE pitches during COVID to complement his increased movement on his FB.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:36 pm to
Alright, I'm totally confused.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:46 pm to
Sounds like he expects LSU to have MLB All Star level pitchers.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:03 pm to
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Not sure what to think about the Kelly hire. I’m willing to give anyone the benefit of doubt. We will see what results we get. One huge concern I have is why are coaches turning down chances to be on staff. Needs to knock it out the park with the next hire.




Welp, looks like it's over folks. Shoulda just retained Paul and Dunn.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:05 pm to
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Question - what makes an effective starter in College Baseball, or at any level for that matter?


Keep hitters off balance without BB/HBP.

/thread
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by lsufan209
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:43 pm to
frick the K Lady
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:51 pm to
My guess is childress turned it down
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Has happened with both positions


From what conference, currently or formerly?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 5:55 pm to
We know jbob turned down the RC position
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:00 pm to
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My guess is childress turned it down

If so, wonder if it was due to his a&m contract / buyout payments
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:01 pm to
That or if he wants a year off or thinks he will get a head coach position
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 6:02 pm to
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Sounds like he expects LSU to have MLB All Star level pitchers.


How many pitchers on LSU’s staff could supplant arms on Miss St, Vandy, NC State, and the like?

Maybe 1-2. That’s it. Where’s the biggest concern for 2022? Pitching.

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