re: Herb Vincent (LSU AAD) clears up TM7s status w/ LSU...Discredits GG!

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There's no such thing as an Ace College Loans Express. Classes are underway, yes? Financial aid is not something you can come up with in an instant.

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Why are you so adamant on this?

IF TM wants to attend LSU this year (HUGE if)....I suspect he will be able. The family will be able to handle it. Hell, how many people cannot handle ONE semester quickly? That gives them time to arrange other aide for the next semester.

LSU starts class on the 20th. another possibility is his uncle had a college fund for him and could pay from that.

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I don't see why everyone is freaking about about lsu tuition. It's really not a big deal with his family I'm sure.

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I don't think people are freaking out. I think the OP asked a pertinent question and got jumped on as though what they were saying was absurd.

It's not.

Personally, I think if TM wants to come to LSU, he's going to be at LSU...his family will find a way to make it happen. But it might not be 'easy' for them as others have suggested.

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While I done necessarily agree it is time to move on for TM, I certainly have little or no confidence he will be able to do what it takes to ever rejoin the team of he does decide to LSU.

His immaturity and previous behavior gives no indication that anyone should be confident in his return to the team in 2013.

BUT, I honestly think TM's draft stock may actually rise more from staying at LSU and sitting out showing his eagerness to take the hard road than going the easy way and playing at McNeese.

If his stock took a hit because of all this, I can't see how playing for McNeese helps that.

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Well I definitely agree that his stock would be higher if he played at a bigger program, but I dont know how much higher. He is gonna carry alot of weight into the draft, especially if he misses the whole year.

Im looking at it more from a personal perspective though. You dont rehabilitate a crackhead in a crackhouse. a change of scenery may be what he needs.

whatever choice he makes I hope it is the right one. Im not sure what kind of future he has in the nfl, but he is definitely a special athlete. It just sucks that he cant keep his nose clean given his talent and the opportunities that he has had.

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Um...that's what we're talking about. Bahnsen's quotes. From himself

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So where did you see Bahnsen's quote? On his twitter feed? LSUSports.net? LSU.edu? Where did you see Bahnsen's quote from himself or an LSU source rather than a media source?

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In the TP story this morning by Kleinpeter, Vincent says Bahnsen was quoted out of context. That's a pretty typical response when you can't deny the quote but you want to distance yourself from it.

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Um, okay. It's also the typical response when a dipshit takes a quote and butchers it or flat our misreports it to say something it never did. Happens all the time. All Vincent is saying there is that, in this particular case, this particular dispshit did not entirely fabricate the quote.

Then again, I guess you could just believe that everything on the internet or in a newspaper is 100% accurate and never, ever misrepresented or misconstrued.

Does the name Jayson Blair ring a bell?

I'd let him use my G.I. Bill...

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Did your parents spend over $25k on your high school tuition plus the additional thousand here or there for extra curricular
Fees (football equip)?

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No, there no overwhelming evidence that his family has the money just laying around but there is no evidence to the contrary. All signs, historical precedence and their family history shows it shouldn't be a problem.

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My family spent considerably more than $25k on my high school tuition and we, like many families with means, would have had (and did have) issues with coming up with full tuition, room, board, etc., if/when a full scholarship was suddenly lost. It doesn't mean it's impossible, but there are lots of ways for a family with means to not be particularly liquid at any given moment (especially in the midst of a serious recession) and thus have trouble coming up with funds for a very substantial and unexpected expense. Do you seriously not get how much money is involved here and the time frames necessary to come up with it? Because if you think there's even a possibility that it could become a problem for them then guess what? YOU'RE AGREEING WITH THE OTHER GUYS!!!

NO ONE is saying they can't cover it. Some people are simply raising the very reasonable question of whether this particular family of means is actually in a position of financial liquidity at this particular moment to be able to cover this particular substantial and unexpected expense. What kind of moron would even conceive of the notion that this is an unreasonable concern? Have you not been paying attention to the economy, college tuition or anything else for the last 20 years?

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based mostly because TM is black or a simple lack of knowledge on how many options there to pay college tuition for one year.

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Really? You have to throw racism in there with absolutely zero justification when the option for a less than complete understanding of the literally millions of pages of legislation, publications, regulations, forms and policies regarding all forms of financial aid from all sources is out there?

But no, why not suggest that it's just as likely that everyone on the planet is a perfectly informed financial aid adviser who just happens to be a racist as it is that some of them might not know that every family that isn't on welfare can come up with a full year's tuition at the drop of a hat with no issue whatsoever?

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They can obviously afford the tuition seeing as how they sent him through st aug at 7k a year

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That was 2 years ago. In case you haven't noticed, a lot of people have seen their financial liquidity situation change in the last two years. Not everyone on this board is Tyrann's family's personal financial adviser like you guys are, so not all of us are privy to their confidential financial information (which, by the way, you are skirting seriously close to a breach of duty by disclosing here; I hope you got solid waivers from them for releasing this info). All most people (like us) know is that most students -- even ones from families with means who paid significant high school tuition for four years -- could potentially have some issues coming up with tuition at the drop of a hat.

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So anyone assuming he couldn't get the money is based on what?

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And where exactly are those people assuming this? The only people assuming anything are you guys assuming everyone is as racist as you clearly are because they wonder if a particular family might have trouble coming up with this kind of money in such short order.

Do you even know what an assumption is? An assumption is a belief that something IS true without any evidence. No questioned issue can ever be an assumption because by virtue of being questioned it is not believed to be so.

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loan from a bank,payment schedule are still options.

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Okay, so what are the interest rates, timetables and deadlines on these? Do you know that there is zero possibility that these options might not be available in time for registration? Because I don't, and most people in the world would not because they don't know the family's situation or financial details. And if those people care about Tyrann's future, they might have a concern that the sudden loss a scholarship could possibly present an issue. And that concern could very well prompt them to hope that it does not turn out to be the case and that options (like the ones y'all mentioned) would be available so that things would work out well. And apparently, there are racist asshats who would assume that such hopes must have some racist motivation (since they cannot conceive of anyone not having a racist motivation for every thought in their head they way they themselves do).

Hopefully you are not one of those asshats, but a couple of folks in this thread have already revealed themselves to be.

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Did any of you think of the idea that he is NOT on the team and therefore can actually work his way thru the year?

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Yes, that would definitely be a possibility. And if well paying jobs were just lying around everywhere waiting for someone to come pick them up, there would be very little cause for concern. But last I checked, jobs weren't all that common these days.

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IF he wants to come, all someone has to do is co-sign a loan at any bank in town to cover tuition/living for a few months.

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Banks might not be quite a free wheeling with the loans these days (there was a bit of shakeup with bad loans a few years back). And even if he's not on the team right now, any job or loan that he got as a result of his playing for LSU -- past or future -- could easily compromise his future NCAA eligibility. And I KNOW none of y'all know that answer for sure because the NCAA doesn't even know that answer for sure.