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re: Heisman odds week 5.

Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:00 am to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18175 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:00 am to
if it's just stats, then Timmy Chang or Colt Brennan should've won Heismans at Hawaii.
Posted by Bengal tail
Member since Aug 2016
755 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:04 am to
Because how the whole team is playing and it’s LSU
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:08 am to
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But he isn't being mentioned? Why though?


Pretty easy to notice that it's not based on stats alone. Daniels, Rattler, Young are all on undefeated teams & ranked in the top 5.

Max is +10000 so make your bet if you think he belongs up there.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27001 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:23 am to
Bryce Young being even mentioned for the Heisman is so lazy.

He's just a Texas Tech quarterback throwing dinks and dunks. He rarely throws more than 10 yards down the field.

He's a good player, and I'm not taking away from him, but he's no superstar.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13069 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:28 am to
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It implies that not only are you a stat machine but you're also winning.



Oklahoma may have “won” their games, but Spencer Rattler has not been the reason why by any means. Their fans were literally booing him and chanting for the backup QB this weekend.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
2931 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:30 am to
Simply because of UCLA lost.

UCLA then losing to Fresno will not help us in the rankings or for individual stats.

I think Max's game will only get better once we start really figuring out what plays he runs at an elite level, which ones he runs okay and which ones he cannot run.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28588 posts
Posted on 9/27/21 at 11:52 am to
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Because the Heisman is generally given to the best player on the best teams. It implies that not only are you a stat machine but you're also winning.


Many who vote for the Heisman trophy are generally pretty lazy and some (maybe many) don't even follow college football all that closely. Thus, it becomes a "best OFFENSIVE player" on the "best team" award. Sometimes that is the obvious choice. Ex. Burrow, Cam Newton. Sometimes it is a questionable choice. Geno Torretta over Marshall Faulk. Mark Ingram when he averaged less ypg than Anthony Dixon...in just the SEC.

Johnson is ranked in the top 20 in passing yards per game, passing TDs, points responsible for and passing efficiency. That means he is AHEAD of Daniels, Rattler and the Cincinnati QB in ALL four categories. He's tied or ahead of Bryce young in 2 of those 4.

Yet, those 4 are currently in the top 5 of the race in terms of betting odds while Johnson is nowhere close.

It is as much a "popularity contest" as a best player award. Unfortunately, LSU is out of the top 25 and the 8-6 record since 2019 has taken them out of the national spotlight.
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