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re: hearing the selection committee talk about criteria makes me 100% certain
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:27 pm to La Place Mike
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:27 pm to La Place Mike
quote:Except for Alabama.
The playoff system was developed too keep SEC teams out.
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:30 pm to Mattwells90
Got news for ya, college football is the most popular sport in this country. 
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:30 pm to tigerfoot
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So replace the system we are replacing with the system we replaced.
As was stated above the actual BCS rankings were fine. It was the lack of a playoff that got people all butthurt. If they kept the rankings the exact same and took the top 4 instead of top 2 it would be better than the shite we are about to get.
The ideal situation, IMO, was the top 8 from BCS rankings playing at 4 set sites with the championship game rotating between those 4. So essentially it would have been the BCS bowls as "playoff games. It was a simple solution to a simple problem. Instead we got an overcomplicated solution, that is going to create even more problems, to a simple problem.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:32 pm to slidellmike
Somehow they will find a way to get BAMA in the final four regardless of if they win the conference or not. BOOK IT!!
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:The power of observation of human nature is quite helpful in noting the general aversion to things SEC (other than Alabama) on the parts of ESPN and the national media.
How in the world did you come to an asinine conclusion like that?
Have you been reading a lot of the other posts along this same thread. There is not a widespread vote of confidence in the committee's impartiality to be found here.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:33 pm to slidellmike
Naieve is what you are
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:39 pm to JawjaTigah
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Have you been reading a lot of the other posts along this same thread. There is not a widespread vote of confidence in the committee's impartiality to be found here.
I have news for you guys, this is exactly what ESPN wants. They want as much controversy possible to be mixed into the playoffs every year because then they won't run out of talking points.
ESPN was behind the push to get rid of the BCS and I guarantee you they were pushing for this committee. If the selected teams were done so without bias ESPN would lose viewers due to lack of "news". With this selection committee they can bring out the old "Is the selection committee choosing fairly" argument whenever it's needed to get viewers.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:10 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I can certainly see that if a team beat FSU with Winston out with a concussion...but, FSU smashed everyone else before and after he came back, it is reasonable to factor that into whether they deserve to be in the playoff or not.
So, in this scenario, if Winston gets hurt between their last game and the playoff, to be fair, FSU should be bumped out and the next best team should take their place. This type of contingency/scenario makes no sense to me.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:15 pm to lsutigermall
Isn't the point to have the 4 best teams at the end of the year play for the title? If a team has just lost their starting QB and they showed they suck with the new QB, it would be justified leaving them out if another team is possibly better.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:33 pm to Roaad
This whole thing is setup for expanding the 4 teams. It will end up being Conference champions and at large teams.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:41 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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1) I think they are going to value Conference Championships VERY highly. So, that losing team would have a tough hill to climb
For that reason I see the SEC dominance of the sport waning over time.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:27 am to Mudflap007
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For that reason I see the SEC dominance of the sport waning over time.
What sense does that make? The SEC Champ will almost always be in the playoff and will likely do very well. The SEC doesn't need 2 teams in the playoff to continue our run of dominance.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:45 am to Roaad
We need a playoff system just like NFL
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:31 am to SammyTiger
quote:I agree with this 100%. The members of this bullshite committee should all have football related backgrounds, Ex-coaches, ex-players, broadcasters or journalists. What kind of qualifications does Rice have to warrant her being selected to this committee?
I am sorry, what other connection to football does she have? In what way is she qualified to judge football teams?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:35 am to JawjaTigah
Ever heard about Johnny deeper? Apparently he was banging some chick and his mom walked in saw him and yelled at him in disgust. Johnny deeper, so he went deeper in that chick.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:52 am to earl keese
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I agree with this 100%. The members of this bullshite committee should all have football related backgrounds, Ex-coaches, ex-players, broadcasters or journalists. What kind of qualifications does Rice have to warrant her being selected to this committee?
Many of the "experts" in the media are nothing more than journalism majors that had an interest in sports so they went to work for ESPN. Rice is just as quailed as any of them. You don't have to be a former player to be able to study and learn the game.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 4:40 am to Mickey Goldmill
OP is 100% right. The playoff isn't about fairness, or parity, or competition - it's about making money. What makes money? More games, and more games including the likes of Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, etc. THOSE are the teams that will benefit from this playoff.
The BCS failed ONCE over two decades (2003 Auburn). The system wasn't broken, but ESPN (aka, the corporation standing to make the biggest profit off of televised playoff games) pushed their agenda until everyone thought the playoff was just common sense. It isn't. It's going to hurt the tradition and integrity of CFB's regular season.
The BCS failed ONCE over two decades (2003 Auburn). The system wasn't broken, but ESPN (aka, the corporation standing to make the biggest profit off of televised playoff games) pushed their agenda until everyone thought the playoff was just common sense. It isn't. It's going to hurt the tradition and integrity of CFB's regular season.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 12:47 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I don't see how Rice is as qualified as a person whose makes a living in a sports related profession. I understand the part where you said you don't have to be a former player to be able to study and learn the game, but how the hell does anyone know how much she understands or follows the game. All I have ever heard about her is that she has Stanford ties and is a fan of Alabama.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:01 pm to Roaad
so what's the solution, stick with the ridiculous 2-team BCS championship game?
A playoff is by the far the best and fairest way to determine a champion - in any sport. Now of course, you can argue about what teams get in the playoff (whether it's college football, NFL, March Madness, etc.).
But a playoff is the best way to do it, and I'd rather have a selection committee pick the teams than stupid human polls and computers (which use criteria decided by humans).
And it's just plain silly to say the regular season is cheapened. There are 130 teams in D-1, and if 4 teams (or even 8 or 12, when it's expanded) make the playoffs, that's not cheapening the regular season at all. I mean, we're not the NBA, where half the teams make the playoffs.
A playoff is by the far the best and fairest way to determine a champion - in any sport. Now of course, you can argue about what teams get in the playoff (whether it's college football, NFL, March Madness, etc.).
But a playoff is the best way to do it, and I'd rather have a selection committee pick the teams than stupid human polls and computers (which use criteria decided by humans).
And it's just plain silly to say the regular season is cheapened. There are 130 teams in D-1, and if 4 teams (or even 8 or 12, when it's expanded) make the playoffs, that's not cheapening the regular season at all. I mean, we're not the NBA, where half the teams make the playoffs.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:10 pm to CalTiger53
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We need a playoff system just like NFL
I assume you meant that we pick the conference champions and a few wild-card teams. This would make sense, but there are too many lesser conferences that don't deserve an automatic berth or a wild card - even if they're undefeated, just based on their weak SOS.
One day we'll go to a 5 mega-conference format, then I can see the 5 conference champions and 3 at-large teams. But you can't pick the wild-card teams based on record alone (the NFL does this, but the NFL adjusts SOS each year based on their prior year's record).
So you've got to have a committee select them, much like college basketball.
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