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re: Harvey Williams at LSU
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:52 pm to SOCAL TIGER
Posted on 10/15/20 at 3:52 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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Actually he played RB for the Raiders. Decent NFL career.
He is also credited for hanging the "Chucky" nickname on Jon Gruden. Gruden laughs when asked about it.
GEAUX TIGERS
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Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:13 pm to Polycarp
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Rumor states he was walking down the hall to sign, still not completely sure about where but leaning towards Gaggie. Cheerleaders and other folks were singing the Gaggie war hymn, he found it annoying, and said frick it.
Agree....heard the same thing many years ago....he had quite the ego.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:13 pm to ccomeaux
The truth be known, there really wasn’t some big pay for play scheme. There was always hearsay and rumor about the Z cars but no one ever really knew. I can tell you this, I personally NEVER saw bags of cash for anyone.
Johnny B Good was a cute movie but beyond the SMU world, I didn’t see it.
Eta: I was involved in recruiting post medical and we always adhered to policy and rules. Sam Nader was/is/and will always be the classiest and most honorable man I’ve known.
Johnny B Good was a cute movie but beyond the SMU world, I didn’t see it.
Eta: I was involved in recruiting post medical and we always adhered to policy and rules. Sam Nader was/is/and will always be the classiest and most honorable man I’ve known.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 4:34 pm to Daygo85
He got about 70% of the snaps during that era. LSU settled for 8-5 seasons and considered it a success.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 5:15 pm to Penrod
He was definitely in the great category. Would have had a much bigger impact had he not gotten hurt.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 5:37 pm to Fanofages
Harvey and Darrel Williams were both good guys, Darrel was a fullback, and kinda nuts! Harvey decided to go to LSU spur of the moment, he was an impulsive guy but a good guy at heart. Back then, everybody was buying players , Harvey coukd have got big money to stay in Texas but he marched to the beat of his own drum. He had a better career than most of us thought he’d have!
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:06 pm to nicholastiger
"And that dog they got-Reveille. That's a sorry dog. I can't stand that dog." Classic Harvey Williams 
Posted on 10/15/20 at 6:42 pm to litenin
Definitely moved to TE. Was a great one. Thus the nickname Harvey Jesus. Knee injury vs Tulane killed our chances in sugar bowl vs Nebraska ‘87.
My bad... Knee injury was before gator bowl win over USCe not sugar bowl loss to Nebraska.
Per wiki page...
After 1995, Williams lost his starting job to another first round pick, Napoleon Kaufman, and was eventually moved to tight end. In 1997, he had perhaps his most memorable game as a pro, scoring 4 touchdowns in a 38–13 win over the San Diego Chargers. He stayed with the Raiders until his release after the 1998 NFL season
Wiki page
My bad... Knee injury was before gator bowl win over USCe not sugar bowl loss to Nebraska.
Per wiki page...
After 1995, Williams lost his starting job to another first round pick, Napoleon Kaufman, and was eventually moved to tight end. In 1997, he had perhaps his most memorable game as a pro, scoring 4 touchdowns in a 38–13 win over the San Diego Chargers. He stayed with the Raiders until his release after the 1998 NFL season
Wiki page
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:17 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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No he was drafted I believe by the Chiefs and played a few years was traded maybe to the Raiders. It’s been to long, but I certainly don’t remember him playing tight end.
In 1994, Williams moved on to the Los Angeles Raiders. He finally received a chance to be a starter, and responded with two good seasons. He rushed for 983 yards in 1994. ... After 1995, Williams lost his starting job to another first round pick, Napoleon Kaufman, and was eventually moved to tight end.
I know, I know its a Wiki link but he did convert to TE later in his career with the Raiders Wiki Link
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:30 pm to Curtis Lowe
It’s against the NFL rules for a TE or in-line player to wear #22 like Harvey did in Oakland.
LINK
In 1997 he played some fullback but in 4 of his 5 seasons there he was a tailback. How many TEs run for 450+ yards? Look at the link, it shows his position by year, whoever added that to Wikipedia didn’t check his game logs.
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In 1997 he played some fullback but in 4 of his 5 seasons there he was a tailback. How many TEs run for 450+ yards? Look at the link, it shows his position by year, whoever added that to Wikipedia didn’t check his game logs.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:40 pm to Madking
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"Although he was a first-round pick in the 1991 NFL Draft, Harvey Williams‘ playing time with the Kansas City Chiefs was meager at best. As the backup to Barry Word and Christian Okoye, the former All-SEC running back was limited to just 858 total running yards and two touchdowns in his first three seasons in the league.
If anyone was due for a change of scenery, it was Williams. He made the most of his second chance with the then-Los Angeles Raiders, starting in 10 games in 1994 and running for a team-leading 983 yards. Even though the franchise moved to Oakland the following season, Williams remained the lead guy, going for a career-high 1,114 yards and nine touchdowns.
His reign as the team’s starting running back didn’t last all that long though, as former Washington Huskies star Napoleon Kaufmann started to take over. Even though they largely split the carries in 1996, Williams’ inability to get yardage ultimately cost him the job. He eventually was relegated to the backup running back/tight end role.
Williams didn’t have many notable performances after that for the Raiders, except for a November game against the rival San Diego Chargers in 1997. He only had a total of seven touches for 66 yards, but Williams managed to find the end zone four different times in that game.
It was a great moment for his career that was winding down, ultimately retiring in 1998. After a rough start to his NFL career, Williams was able to find both comfort and a real role for the Raiders at his second and most important stop."
Saw it with my own two eyes, he did play some TE late in his career with the Raiders.
"Although he was a first-round pick in the 1991 NFL Draft, Harvey Williams‘ playing time with the Kansas City Chiefs was meager at best. As the backup to Barry Word and Christian Okoye, the former All-SEC running back was limited to just 858 total running yards and two touchdowns in his first three seasons in the league.
If anyone was due for a change of scenery, it was Williams. He made the most of his second chance with the then-Los Angeles Raiders, starting in 10 games in 1994 and running for a team-leading 983 yards. Even though the franchise moved to Oakland the following season, Williams remained the lead guy, going for a career-high 1,114 yards and nine touchdowns.
His reign as the team’s starting running back didn’t last all that long though, as former Washington Huskies star Napoleon Kaufmann started to take over. Even though they largely split the carries in 1996, Williams’ inability to get yardage ultimately cost him the job. He eventually was relegated to the backup running back/tight end role.
Williams didn’t have many notable performances after that for the Raiders, except for a November game against the rival San Diego Chargers in 1997. He only had a total of seven touches for 66 yards, but Williams managed to find the end zone four different times in that game.
It was a great moment for his career that was winding down, ultimately retiring in 1998. After a rough start to his NFL career, Williams was able to find both comfort and a real role for the Raiders at his second and most important stop."
Saw it with my own two eyes, he did play some TE late in his career with the Raiders.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:45 pm to Curtis Lowe
The facts and game logs have been posted twice. I can post highlights and game footage from 1997 if you’d like.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 7:56 pm to Madking
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The facts and game logs have been posted twice. I can post highlights and game footage from 1997 if you’d like.
"Facts"? your link does not state his position in 1998, oops.
You are wrong. I know that for a fact. I was at games where he lined up and played TE. Post his game footage of 1998, if you dare.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:06 pm to Curtis Lowe
He didn’t play FB in 1998, he was a tailback. The only season he didn’t play exclusively at tailback was 1997 when he played some fullback. And you keep ignoring another glaring fact, it’s ILLEGAL to line up at TE in the NFL wearing #22!! The facts are clear no matter how much you wanna deny it or makeup some false memory that doesn’t exist. What you saw was Harvey lining up in a wing or H-back position off the line almost always motioning into the backfield like every other fullback that plays in the NFL.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:10 pm to Madking
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fact, it’s ILLEGAL to line up at TE in the NFL wearing #22!
Are you trying to say a player wearing 22 can’t line up at TE lol
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:10 pm to Lester Earl
Thems the rules and they’ve been posted. My god you’re ignorant.
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:13 pm to Madking
Do you know who Dallas Clark is?
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
He wore #44 you moron
This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 10/15/20 at 8:15 pm to Polycarp
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Rumor states he was walking down the hall to sign, still not completely sure about where but leaning towards Gaggie. Cheerleaders and other folks were singing the Gaggie war hymn, he found it annoying, and said frick it.
This is the story I remember from that time.
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