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re: Harris struggled with accuracy at the Manning Camp
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:35 am to LSUTiger88
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:35 am to LSUTiger88
Yeah the golf cart thing doesn't concern me. Didn't like that part about the perception that he appeared to be lazy and not into it all that much.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:36 am to the LSUSaint
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Exactly. These guys want to downplay that it was golf carts. Like the qb who hit every cart and receiver isn't really accurate.
The winners since JJ looked so fantastic in 2011:
'11: Collier Winter
'12: Charley Loeb (beat Mettenberger and later lost his starting job at Syracuse)
'13: Stephen Morris
'14: Sean Mannion
'15: Seth Russell
'16: (tie) John O'Korn/Nick Mullens
There's a reason you don't know the names of most of the guys on this list. Nick Mullens (Southern Miss) has the most impressive collegiate stats of any of them.
Please, continue to tell me how this is indicative of talent, development or future success.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 8:37 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:38 am to LSUTiger88
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The reaction to this thread is interesting. Harris has struggled with accuracy since he's been here. How you guys can manage skepticism of a report that he is still inaccurate is beyond me. Harris' inaccuracy caused Dural's season ending injury. He has to be better.
I get what you are saying. I know it's just some stupid camp but accuracy has been a major issue with Harris and even hearing that he struggled and more so that he was labeled as "lazy" according to a few coaches there does not sit well with me nor should it with anyone. Time will tell but some in here can laugh all they want about Danny Etling or even McMillan, Miles can not afford to give Harris time to come around if his accuracy becomes a big issue here.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:38 am to TigerFanFromBama
Don't you guys understand they want Harris and LSU to fail. They are gonna say this all year even if we win every game. They are gonna say for the Alabama game it's up to Harris with his throws. I say screw all the outsiders and prove them all wrong.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:38 am to therick711
And I'll counter that Harris has yet to have a full season where he wasn't injured.
It's entirely possible Harris doesn't improve at all this year, but taking this drill as an 100% positive assumption he won't improve is fricking stupid.
It's entirely possible Harris doesn't improve at all this year, but taking this drill as an 100% positive assumption he won't improve is fricking stupid.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:39 am to Nissanmaxima
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I get what you are saying. I know it's just some stupid camp but accuracy has been a major issue with Harris and even hearing that he struggled and more so that he was labeled as "lazy" according to a few coaches there does not sit well with me nor should it with anyone. Time will tell but some in here can laugh all they want about Danny Etling or even McMillan, Miles can not afford to give Harris time to come around if his accuracy because a big issue here.
Especially disappointing to see reports he isn't taking it seriously when just a few days ago he appeared to be saying all the right things. It is just one data point, though. Doesn't mean he won't be ready when the lights come on, but he really has a lot of improving to do on his game to be what we know he could be based on his talent.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:39 am to mach316
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Why wouldn't he take this serious? Are you saying that he just blew this off? That he really wasn't trying? You obviously know nothing about being competitive. No doubt he was trying. He just wasn't accurate according to people that were there. Hopefully this will improve before fall.
This. If he really wasn't trying, that might be worse than if he was. Competitive fire is something that can't really be taught - you either have it or you don't. Guys like Drew Brees or Peyton Manning don't even want to lose at backyard Ping-Pong or horseshoes, much less any competition that involves throwing a football.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:40 am to TigerFanFromBama
Tiger Stadium in October....
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:41 am to Tedock
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And I'll counter that Harris has yet to have a full season where he wasn't injured.
It's entirely possible Harris doesn't improve at all this year, but taking this drill as an 100% positive assumption he won't improve is fricking stupid.
You think the difference between Deshaun Watson and Harris is health?
I haven't seen anyone say anything like your second paragraph, so I'm not sure where the hell that little detour came from.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:42 am to TigerFanFromBama
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:43 am to therick711
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Especially disappointing to see reports he isn't taking it seriously when just a few days ago he appeared to be saying all the right things. It is just one data point, though. Doesn't mean he won't be ready when the lights come on, but he really has a lot of improving to do on his game to be what we know he could be based on his talent.
I agree 100%. So let me ask a question here. How long does he get if he struggles with his accuracy? Will Miles be quick with the hook or does he let him ride it out? I guess we know from the past with Miles that he is not quick to pull QB's that are not named Lee.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:44 am to Nissanmaxima
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I agree 100%. So let me ask a question here. How long does he get if he struggles with his accuracy? Will Miles be quick with the hook or does he let him ride it out? I guess we know from the past with Miles that he is not quick to pull QB's that are not named Lee.
My suspicion is we will see an offense that leans heavily on Fournette if that happens, not that a change will be made.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:44 am to therick711
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The reaction to this thread is interesting. Harris has struggled with accuracy since he's been here. How you guys can manage skepticism of a report that he is still inaccurate is beyond me. Harris' inaccuracy caused Dural's season ending injury. He has to be better.
Well said.
The issue with LSU QB's has been a combo of poor accuracy, poor pocket presence and poor decision making/information processing. I'll take better decision making and leave the other two flat and we'll be just fine.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:46 am to LSU Patrick
Take it for what it's worth but I have a friend who volunteered to work at the camp. He said he was most impressed with Baker Mayfield. He also spoke highly of D Watson and T. Knight. He wasn't so impressed with Harris. He said "he couldn't hit the broad side of the barn".
Ouch. Hope he's wrong.
Ouch. Hope he's wrong.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:47 am to TigerFanFromBama
why does it matter? Leslie will once again unleash his vanilla play calling when it matters most.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:48 am to HoopyD
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ake it for what it's worth but I have a friend who volunteered to work at the camp. He said he was most impressed with Baker Mayfield.
Really going out on a limb being impressed with the guy who was all everything last year.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:48 am to therick711
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Deshaun has never had a completion percentage below 67%. Harris has never had one above 55%.
So we can't assume that this is indicative of a regression by Watson. But we CAN use it as proof of Harris's lack of improvement?
It's the same contest. Over the last 5 years quarterbacks who are less talented have won more often.
If you want to decry him for not taking it seriously, fine (I think that's dumb too. But it's just my opinion). But to use this contest as an indicator of quarterback talent or improvement is patently absurd.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:48 am to Tedock
I don't know if Harris will improve or not and nobody will know until the season gets here. Some of you act like Harris needs to be Tom Brady or Drew Brees for LSU to be successful. He just needs to be what Jake Coker was last year. Run the offense, don't turn the ball over, and make 1 or 2 plays downfield a game.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:50 am to Guava Jelly
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So we can't assume that this is indicative of a regression by Watson. But we CAN use it as proof of Harris's lack of improvement?
Guava. It is one data point. I've probably posted that 1000 times. Using it in conjunction with what we know about Harris' game, we'd all prefer a report that he was super accurate and looked sharp. You think it is meaningless. It might be. All things being equal, I'd rather our quarterback look good throwing a football. Why don't you prefer that outcome?
Also, you seem fixated on who won the competitions in the past. How about just performing well. That's all I want. He doesn't need to be first; just look good. That would be a good report to get.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 8:53 am
Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:51 am to geauxtigers33
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He just needs to be what Jake Coker was last year. Run the offense, don't turn the ball over, and make 1 or 2 plays downfield a game.
Jay Coker had a 66% completion rate. Harris needs to up his accuracy by 11% to be our Jay Coker. Like it or not, there was a pretty big gap between even their games last year.
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