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Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:45 am to Dire Wolf
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Les has never been a come from behind head coach
This is old, and I'm too lazy to find obscure updated stats - LINK Obscure or not, posting a 17% better winning percentage than the closest coach when trailing in the 4th quarter says he knows something about coming from behind.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:51 am to Chris Warner
CW, what are you up to these days?
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:31 pm to BayouCowboy
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I'm concerned there will be a lot stat padding with LF to get him the Heisman when we should be developing our passing game. It's also just as important for us to get our pass protection solid because it's been marginal at best the last few years.
Fournette can pad his stats and we can develop the passing game if we simply just run...more...plays.
LSU was 11th in the SEC in plays per game in 2015, and is consistently 9th or worse yearly. If you aren't averaging a very high yard per play like Bama and UGA usually do, then running very few offensive plays is a major detriment to you. Your offense is wasting potential and hindering the defense greatly.
We should be averaging 30 passes per game and 42-45 rushes per game.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:31 pm to SabiDojo
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He needs to improve a lot more than that.
He was above average last year on the way to being really good before he got hurt. I know it doesn't fit into the popular narrative. But it's the truth.
If he's a little more consistent (which often comes with age), he'll be very good this year.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:41 pm to atltiger6487
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yea, the "youth" and "hernia" excuses will eventually run out of steam,
This is just fricking stupid. You think his surgery was a hoax or something?
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I'll never be mistaken for a homer, that's for sure.
Because you say things like the above statement no one takes your opinion seriously anyway.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:54 pm to WhoDat937
quote:They cite anonymous sources who claim to know more than Harris himself. But they support an excuse for the coaching staff and Harris.
Harris said he wasn't sure when it first occured, but had been nagging him for a long time.
The advocate and Nola.com both reported it occured in the Bama game (and more specifics), but this guy has better sources.
quote:No. But Harris wasn't getting it done so I would have tried Jennings. Knowing now that Harris had an injury for some games makes it a no brainier. But it is ultimately the head coach who takes the blame for leaving us with one option and not even using that option.
He thinks Jennings was a better QB. He's not the brightest crayon.
As far as being bright is concerned, you are taking the word of an anonymous source over Harris concerning an injury to Harris. How bright is that?
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:00 pm to Guava Jelly
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yea, the "youth" and "hernia" excuses will eventually run out of steam,
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This is just fricking stupid. You think his surgery was a hoax or something?
Of course not - the hernia was real and needed surgery.
I'm just not going to use it as (another) excuse. If the medical staff says he's healthy enough to play, then he needs to perform, injury or not.
This just in - football players are often hurt and are rarely at 100% health. If they take the field, they need to perform.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:17 pm to Mayhawman
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This is a fan? I always thought it was about being being behind your team and excited for the next season.
If it was all about being a realist and chest thumping "I told ya so" internet fame, I wouldn't invest.
huh? I am a fan, and have been since I could walk. I too am excited about the upcoming year and hope we can get to the playoffs.
However, being a fan doesn't mean being blind. I can be a fan, and optimistic, but at the same time I can see reality. We have many positives, but also some negatives. I don't see why a fan can't recognize both.
Blind loyalty (in any aspect of life) is rarely a good thing.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:28 pm to atltiger6487
quote:'15 was guesstimated 9-4/10-3 by most, but somehow the reality of it caused players and staff to then become garbage. I'd say that's not realistic at all.
I can be a fan, and optimistic, but at the same time I can see reality. We have many positives, but also some negatives.
quote:Sounds like you'd change your stripes if things don't go your way. It's a game played by kids who owe you nothing , but love LSU and try their best to keep you loyal.
Blind loyalty (in any aspect of life) is rarely a good thing.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 2:52 pm to Mayhawman
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'15 was guesstimated 9-4/10-3 by most, but somehow the reality of it caused players and staff to then become garbage. I'd say that's not realistic at all.
The reason fans were so upset wasn't that we lost 3 times, it was HOW we lost those games - not even close.
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Sounds like you'd change your stripes if things don't go your way. It's a game played by kids who owe you nothing , but love LSU and try their best to keep you loyal.
huh? I love the Tigers - but I'm just saying I keep my eyes wide open and try to see things as they really are - not blinded by that love.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:02 pm to atltiger6487
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I'm just not going to use it as (another) excuse. If the medical staff says he's healthy enough to play, then he needs to perform, injury or not.
Again, this is asinine for two reasons. First, Harris was a solid QB last year. Streaky, but overall he had a decent season. Even with injury his play was an improvement on the prior year's quarterback play.
Second, youth and injury are two DAMN GOOD reasons for a player to not set the world on fire. I'll ask you what I asked a guy a few days ago, in the last decade how many underclassman first-year starters can you name who have won the SEC?
I'll give you a hint... you can't name one, because it didn't happen.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:30 pm to Guava Jelly
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Second, youth and injury are two DAMN GOOD reasons for a player to not set the world on fire. I'll ask you what I asked a guy a few days ago, in the last decade how many underclassman first-year starters can you name who have won the SEC?
In the consummate team sport, you are limiting your selection to the last 10 years and, even in that short list, to first year starters to have "won the SEC"? That is a really crap justification.
quote:By your own logic, Jennings would have been an improvement last year over the year before.
Even with injury his play was an improvement on the prior year's quarterback play.
quote:He had like 2 good games against vastly inferior opponents. And he wasn't really asked to do much at all. Probably the least production needed out of any QB in D-1 football.
First, Harris was a solid QB last year. Streaky, but overall he had a decent season.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:48 pm to Guava Jelly
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in the last decade how many underclassman first-year starters can you name who have won the SEC?
yea, I remember that question. You had to edit it to add the "underclassman" qualifier because several posters stepped up and named many first-year starters that have recently won the SEC. And, by the way, that's a very high hurdle (winning the SEC). My point is that inexperienced QBs can, and do, play very well.
And, oh by the way, you are dead wrong. These underclassman first-year starters won the SEC:
Greg McElroy 2009
Cam Newton 2010 (and won the Heisman)
Nick Marshall 2013
Other notable underclassmen, first year starters who didn't win the SEC:
AJ McCarron 2011 (won the National Championship)
Tim Tebow 2007 (won the Heisman)
Johnny Manziel 2012 (won the Heisman)
Drop the underclassman restriction, and these other first-year starters won the SEC:
Blake Simms 2014
Jake Coker 2015
I'm sure there are other underclassmen, first-year starters who've played very well (Aaron Murray, Bo Wallace, etc) I just haven't done the research.
So going back a decade, as you suggested, with the exception of 2008 (Tebow's junior year) a first-year starter in the SEC won the SEC, won the National Championship, or won the Heisman.
Is that enough for you?
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:49 pm to mmcgrath
quote:UF is vastly inferior? Not saying he was all world, but Harris had 5 or 6 games 60% or better iirc.
He had like 2 good games against vastly inferior opponents.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:54 pm to mmcgrath
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In the consummate team sport, you are limiting your selection to the last 10 years and, even in that short list, to first year starters to have "won the SEC"? That is a really crap justification.
Ok, expand it. Name me one in the last 20 years. Hell, go 30 years. You know why there are few, if any, who have accomplished that feat in the modern era of football? Because it's hard and it takes maturity.
And what other measure of success is there than winning championships? What do you expect of him? A heisman? What, in your estimation, would be adequate for a first-year starting sophomore QB to do?
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By your own logic, Jennings would have been an improvement last year over the year before.
This doesn't follow logically from anything that anyone has said in this conversation.
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He had like 2 good games against vastly inferior opponents. And he wasn't really asked to do much at all. Probably the least production needed out of any QB in D-1 football.
Go back and look at his stats and try again.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 3:58 pm to Guava Jelly
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Ok, expand it. Name me one in the last 20 years. Hell, go 30 years. You know why there are few, if any, who have accomplished that feat in the modern era of football? Because it's hard and it takes maturity.
Look at my post, 3 posts up.
These underclassman first-year starters won the SEC:
Greg McElroy 2009
Cam Newton 2010
Nick Marshall 2013
Posted on 4/5/16 at 4:11 pm to atltiger6487
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Cam Newton 2010
He was an underclassman in 2010 despite having his first year of college in 2007? It was his 4th season out of high school
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Nick Marshall 2013
3rd year
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Greg McElroy 2009
He was a redshirt JUNIOR in 2009.
Swing and a miss
What year is this for Harris?
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/5/16 at 4:11 pm to chilge1
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Harris will be key to getting LSU's passing offense back on track, but more importantly, Aranda has to fix the defense. In our three losses last year, the defense gave up 30+ in each game.
I agree. If Aranda can produce a defense that gives our offense a shorter field equates to more opportunities to score.
I like our chances.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 4:15 pm to mmcgrath
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As far as being bright is concerned, you are taking the word of an anonymous source over Harris concerning an injury to Harris. How bright is that?
Show a Harris quote that contradicts it. Him saying that he doesn't know when the injury first FIRST occurred doesn't do that. Derp
Do you even understand the injury?
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 4:16 pm
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