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re: Hannagriff “Orgeron’s doing better than most of his replacements”
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:38 pm to RB10
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:38 pm to RB10
quote:
. Slapping around posters that just make shite up is a good way to pass the time
You've gotten your arse handed to you in this thread. At this point people are feeling sorry for you.
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:38 pm to bencoleman
what are you talking about idiot?
so basically you came at me for making things up and then made up a story that didn't happen to back that up with?
Goddamn ben you are just not a very bright guy.
quote:
You made up an entire scenario concerning Joe Burrow in your head this morning so you could take another shot at the coaches.
so basically you came at me for making things up and then made up a story that didn't happen to back that up with? Goddamn ben you are just not a very bright guy.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:38 pm to LSUBadger
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Sure. How about you correct the fact that we only signed 2 OL in 2014 and you said there were 3. Clapp and Brumfeld. Do you think it is ok to only sign 2 OL in any year? I haven’t looked at your other numbers, but most would assume there are other errors. You don’t seem to be terribly bright
Jevonte Domond. OT.
signed in 2014.
so you’re wrong
again
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:39 pm to bencoleman
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You've gotten your arse handed to you in this thread. At this point people are feeling sorry for you.
I've presented facts that you can't even bother to try and refute. Well done.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:39 pm to RB10
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You're the one using them being gone as depth issues. Not me
Gone is gone. I guess you have some phantom players that you want to dress out.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:41 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
WRONG
We were trending down from dynasty mode. Check what we ended the season ranked in 2014. Check when was the last time we had 6 sec wins before last year. We used to win national championships before Miles turn for the worse.
We were trending down from dynasty mode. Check what we ended the season ranked in 2014. Check when was the last time we had 6 sec wins before last year. We used to win national championships before Miles turn for the worse.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:42 pm to bencoleman
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Gone is gone. I guess you have some phantom players that you want to dress out.
No. I just don't give the coach credit for recruiting a position to "fix" it when he's the one who "broke" it in the first place.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:48 pm to BilJ
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so basically you came at me for making things up and then made up a story that didn't happen to back that up with?
Goddamn ben you are just not a very bright guy
If you didn't start a thread about Joe this morning then I apologize for getting you mixed up.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:48 pm to RB10
Well it was a problem. Remember, that was the year we failed to sign a single DT or LB’s. Were you losing your mind on NSD at that total frick show?
So is 3 DT per year better than zero?
Which is it? You really need to make up your mind. You keep claiming Miles didn’t leave any holes when all evidence shows that is a moronic viewpoint
Spring 2017 we had two scholarship Inside LB on the entire roster (Alexander) and White. We had more kickers on scholarship than we had inside linebackers in a 3-4 scheme. Oh yeah, that was another personal management issue O had to clean up. Hard to keep up. There were so many
So basically, your entire argument about Miles not leaving roster issues is completely debunked. Your argument about O’s roster management centers 100% on there only currently being 1 DL commitment. Something that most feel he will address
Detention is probably almost over. Head on home. Maybe momma made you some gumbo and grill cheese sandwiches for dinner
So is 3 DT per year better than zero?
Which is it? You really need to make up your mind. You keep claiming Miles didn’t leave any holes when all evidence shows that is a moronic viewpoint
Spring 2017 we had two scholarship Inside LB on the entire roster (Alexander) and White. We had more kickers on scholarship than we had inside linebackers in a 3-4 scheme. Oh yeah, that was another personal management issue O had to clean up. Hard to keep up. There were so many
So basically, your entire argument about Miles not leaving roster issues is completely debunked. Your argument about O’s roster management centers 100% on there only currently being 1 DL commitment. Something that most feel he will address
Detention is probably almost over. Head on home. Maybe momma made you some gumbo and grill cheese sandwiches for dinner
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:49 pm to TrueTigerTale
Arguably ND’s win over Michigan is the best win.
Who’s paying off Hannagrif.
Who’s paying off Hannagrif.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:51 pm to RB10
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I've presented facts that you can't even bother to try and refute. Well done
The facts that you've "presented" are irrelevant and don't make you look good. Whatever reason that they are gone. If O had to clean house or whatever reason the fact is that they were gone and have to be replenished.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:56 pm to BilJ
I get the sense that Burrow has to be frustrated
Posted by BillF online on 11/12/18 at 10:06 pm
There's absolutely no chance that this is the offense Orgeron and Ensminger sold him when they convinced him to come to LSU.
The approach in the Georgia game may have been closer to what he expected. But after the shutout against Alabama, Orgeron and Ensminger went into a shell like a turtle against Arkansas. They coached scared, like LSU has done for the last decade.
Just like Les. Run it and try to hang on by your fingernails. The more I see Orgeron and Ensminger, the more I see Les and Cam. Burrow was sold the same lie as the rest of us
Ok. I got you mixed up with another one. You all look alike to me. Sorry about that.
Posted by BillF online on 11/12/18 at 10:06 pm
There's absolutely no chance that this is the offense Orgeron and Ensminger sold him when they convinced him to come to LSU.
The approach in the Georgia game may have been closer to what he expected. But after the shutout against Alabama, Orgeron and Ensminger went into a shell like a turtle against Arkansas. They coached scared, like LSU has done for the last decade.
Just like Les. Run it and try to hang on by your fingernails. The more I see Orgeron and Ensminger, the more I see Les and Cam. Burrow was sold the same lie as the rest of us
Ok. I got you mixed up with another one. You all look alike to me. Sorry about that.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:59 pm to LSUBadger
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So is 3 DT per year better than zero?
Which is it? You really need to make up your mind. You keep claiming Miles didn’t leave any holes when all evidence shows that is a moronic viewpoint
Explain. My numbers paint a clear picture. Yours don't.
Also, I hope you aren't counting Rosenthal and Hines as defensive linemen at this point. They both play on the offensive line now. Just FYI.
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Spring 2017 we had two scholarship Inside LB on the entire roster (Alexander) and White. We had more kickers on scholarship than we had inside linebackers in a 3-4 scheme.
Devin White
Donnie Alexander
Layton Garnett
MJ Patterson
Jonathan Rucker
All MLBs. If you're going to make shite up there's not really a point to keep going.
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So basically, your entire argument about Miles not leaving roster issues is completely debunked. Your argument about O’s roster management centers 100% on there only currently being 1 DL commitment. Something that most feel he will address
My entire argument has been laid out. It shows that the cupboard was far from bare when Orgeron took over.
If you can't follow along that's your problem.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:01 pm to bencoleman
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The facts that you've "presented" are irrelevant and don't make you look good. Whatever reason that they are gone. If O had to clean house or whatever reason the fact is that they were gone and have to be replenished.
How do facts make one look bad? Facts are facts. You not liking what they represent doesn't make me "look bad". It just makes you delusional.
The only thing that looks bad is trying to deny facts. I'm not the one doing that ITT.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:09 pm to RB10
O has signed 3 per year for a 3-4 scheme while Miles in 2015 didn't sign a single DT or Inside LB. What further explanation is needed? Consistent numbers for a 3-4 scheme
Rosenthal and Hines are both counted as OL. Livingston, Cotton and Jenkins are the redshirts
Rucker and Garnett were friggin walkons you moron. Patterson never saw a snap at ILB in his life. He couldn't put on weight to play any position. There was a reason why Taylor and Phillips had to play as true freshmen. We only had two of them on scholarship in the spring.
Pro tip. Dont call out somebody for making something up, when your BS is trying to claim walkons and squad players as proof of Miles excellent program management
You might be the dumbest SOB on the board. You certainly are the most bombastic (that's a grownup word for loudmouth).
Take Ben's advise and admit defeat
Rosenthal and Hines are both counted as OL. Livingston, Cotton and Jenkins are the redshirts
Rucker and Garnett were friggin walkons you moron. Patterson never saw a snap at ILB in his life. He couldn't put on weight to play any position. There was a reason why Taylor and Phillips had to play as true freshmen. We only had two of them on scholarship in the spring.
Pro tip. Dont call out somebody for making something up, when your BS is trying to claim walkons and squad players as proof of Miles excellent program management
You might be the dumbest SOB on the board. You certainly are the most bombastic (that's a grownup word for loudmouth).
Take Ben's advise and admit defeat
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:14 pm to RB10
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do facts make one look bad? Facts are facts. You not liking what they represent doesn't make me "look bad". It just makes you delusional.
The only thing that looks bad is trying to deny facts. I'm not the one doing that ITT
No you're the one arguing over things that are irrelevant. It doesn't matter how the ranks got depleted it only matters that they're being refilled. You've deflected, moved the goalposts and whatever you've had to do to avoid admitting that O is replenishing the depth.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:16 pm to LSUBadger
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and Garnett were friggin walkons you moron. Patterson never saw a snap at ILB in his life. He couldn't put on weight to play any position. There was a reason why Taylor and Phillips had to play as true freshmen. We only had two of them on scholarship in the spring.
Pro tip. Dont call out somebody for making something up, when your BS is trying to claim walkons and squad players as proof of Miles excellent program management
You might be the dumbest SOB on the board. You certainly are the most bombastic (that's a grownup word for loudmouth).
Take Ben's advise and admit defeat
Damn that left a mark.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:19 pm to LSUBadger
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You might be the dumbest SOB on the board. You certainly are the most bombastic (that's a grownup word for loudmouth).
Miles signed 5 LBs, including Devin White, over his last 3 years. The first year of this was for a 4-3. Orgeron has signed 4 LBs and has another 3 committed.
Such a massive discrepancy between 5 and 7. Man, you're definitely on to something.
Lets Recap:
Over his last 3 classes Miles signed:
12 Offensive Linemen
14 Defensive Linemen
5 Linebackers
Over his 3 classes Orgeron has signed/committed:
15 Offensive Linemen
7 Defensive Linemen
7 Linebackers
I don't think this paints the picture that you want it to.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:21 pm to bencoleman
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No you're the one arguing over things that are irrelevant. It doesn't matter how the ranks got depleted it only matters that they're being refilled.
So if I burn a house down it doesn't matter as long as I fix it?
Solid logic.
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You've deflected, moved the goalposts and whatever you've had to do to avoid admitting that O is replenishing the depth.
Do you know what moving goalposts is? My stance has been the exact same throughout the thread, so I'm guessing not.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:24 pm to cra_cra
cra_cra, you sir are a whole idiot! You talking out your azz!! Don't get me wrong, O has done a pretty decent job. However, hasn't NOR HAS HE EVER built ANY football program. His best attribute is recruiting. The absolute best member of his staff is Dave Arranda and the defensive ranking prove his worth. Btw, every program has "glaring problems" which is why ability to recruit is a high priority, which O is actually great at. Also, ability to coach plays a major role because it allows you to mask weaknesses or issues, which O appears not so good at. I think a pretty fair comparison would be Kirby at UGA. In his 3rd year, they were in the Big Game. Just as this coaching staff lacks ability to make in-game adjustments, so do they with in-season adjustments. Our offense was putrid and has regressed as the season has gone on. Stop leaving out Dabo, so stop saying O is performing as well as any coach sans Saban. Dabo has Clemson there more times than not as well. And he BUILT that program! O was a cheap choice since the AD made the questionable decision to fire Miles mid-season. The irony was how much we've been paying Miles NOT TO COACH yet we've also been paying O to get eerily similar results. This LSU team is not as fully talented as the teams in the last decade or so but they are by far more talented than some of the teams of coaches Hanny tried to compare O to. Our schedule is unreal easy next year, a good amount of returning starters, and JB should be better and more battle-tested. If O can't get us to the CFP next year, he simply is the man for the job he's been tasked with performing. Aranda would be a better HC and something tells me he'd hire a competent OC to run that side of the ball. Ensminger should've never been hired as an OC to run the offense.
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