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re: Hannagriff *and now Moscona* going in dry about Alleva's handling of hire
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:43 pm to RedPop4
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:43 pm to RedPop4
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Truth is none of us will EVER know. How many did Alleva talk to? We don't know
If Coach O was the considered to be the third best available HC, I would just like to know what criteria were used to evaluate the candidates. What's the common denominator between Jimbo, Herman, and Orgeron? That's what I want to know. It certainly isn't career winning percentage.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:44 pm to Tiger Ryno
Ok... tell oh great wizard.... how do you know whether both Herman and Fisher would do better in three years than coach O???? Please tell me.......
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:44 pm to mpar98
Shoutout to Moscona, he's been spot on today
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:47 pm to Fus0623
Really???? He is pissed because LSU didn't take Fisher. And he keeps bringing up 1987. And said LSU has fallen to the depths of hiring in house.... Look I will say there are better coaches that could have gotten a shot, but O is the coach and I hope he goes 10-2 next year...... A lot of people will be eating crow.....
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:48 pm to mpar98
They should be going in with bats. Most unqualified hire in big 6 history. We just hired a coach that wouldn't get interviewed at vandy or kentucky. We just paid 3 million dollars a year to a coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense, or program. Our administration is the worst in the sec.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:49 pm to dukke v
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That's not the point. Tell me the FACTS you have that you are certain that both Herman and Fisher can do a better job than coach O.....
Impossible question to answer. But here is the fact. If I've got pocket Aces again your 7 2 off suit, history and odds support that I have the best chance of winning the hand. Could you win? Absolutely. It's just not likely
Ed O is 7 2 off suit. I hope he hits a set on the flop. I just don't think he will.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:50 pm to dukke v
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... tell oh great wizard.... how do you know whether both Herman and Fisher would do better in three years than coach O???? Please tell me......
Peej, there is no way you actually believe Ed Orgeron is any where near the caliber of Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You are being like a broken record again..... but you are wrong.... O was the head coach at Ole Miss back in the day...... again you have ZERO clue how involved he was in the offense or defense since he took over.... were you at practice???? Or in the booths for a game to see who did what?????
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:52 pm to dukke v
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Look I will say there are better coaches that could have gotten a shot, but O is the coach and I hope he goes 10-2 next year...
Wait so 10-2 wasnt good enough for Les miles to keep his job yet if Ed Orgeron goes 10-2 then people should eat crow?
10-2 was considered shite with the amount of talent we have, right?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:53 pm to Goldrush25
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I would just like to know what criteria were used to evaluate the candidates. What's the common denominator between Jimbo, Herman, and Orgeron? That's what I want to know. It certainly isn't career winning percentage.
We were sold on continuity.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:54 pm to dukke v
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O was the head coach at Ole Miss back in the day...... again you have ZERO clue how involved he was in the offense or defense since he took over.... were you at practice???? Or in the booths for a game to see who did what?????
Wow. Why exactly has he not gotten offers to be a defensive coordinator? Let me guess be has been turning down al these high profile DC jobs for 30 years just because. Come the frick on peej. This hire is absolutely shite and you know it. If you dont then you really dont know football.
And like ive said before, i dont need to change what i say because im stating facts. Why would i change what im saying?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:55 pm to dukke v
I will ask you a better question, outside of LSU, name me one big time program that would have hired him if LSU would have hired someone else? Would Texas hire Orgeron? How about the Oregon job? What about Baylor. I like O, but their are more qualified people avaliable. We settled, no ifs ands or buts about it. We settled bigtime. Our administration sucks and we settled. If Jimbo came here, would FSU hire Orgeron?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:56 pm to dukke v
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Ok... tell oh great wizard.... how do you know whether both Herman and Fisher would do better in three years than coach O???? Please tell me.......
You hire is 100% guarantee.
If you hired Saban, you'd be worried that his age and desire gets to him a la Spurrier.
But, that doesn't justify not hiring the guy who you think is the best to lead your program. If Alleva came to the conclusion that Orgeron was the 3rd best option, he needs to be fired.
On paper, this is a terrible, terrible hire.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to dukke v
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Look I will say there are better coaches that could have gotten a shot, but O is the coach and I hope he goes 10-2 next year...... A lot of people will be eating crow
10-2 is good...but Orgeron needs to have the same standards as Miles. He can't lose a game to a clearly inferior team (like florida) and fail to be competitive with a quality team (like 125 yards against Bama).
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Peej, there is no way you actually believe Ed Orgeron is any where near the caliber of Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman.
peej has completely gone off the deep end.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:03 pm to CBandits82
Well at least carley is gone. Thats a plus
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:10 pm to LSURulzSEC
Come on.....the miles hire was 100 times more understandable than what just went on.
The idea LSU fired a successful HC to replace him with a guy winning 10 games in 3 yrs and never offered a HC gig again is mind blowing. IMO
What Joe is saying is that coach O was the best option out there after Jimbo and Herman. That's just silly and totally without merit. It's also scarey coming from our leadership.
The idea LSU fired a successful HC to replace him with a guy winning 10 games in 3 yrs and never offered a HC gig again is mind blowing. IMO
What Joe is saying is that coach O was the best option out there after Jimbo and Herman. That's just silly and totally without merit. It's also scarey coming from our leadership.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:12 pm to Jonburris81
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I will ask you a better question, outside of LSU, name me one big time program
You dont even need to use BIG TIME programs. Ed orgeron wouldnt be a top 5 candidate at Vandy or Kentucky. Lets be honest with ourselves.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:14 pm to mpar98
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And that he thinks Alleva couldn't close a deal with Herman or Jimbo.
Alleva couldn't close a deal with the kid at a lemonade stand.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:16 pm to LSURulzSEC
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'm willing to give CEO an opportunity like I did with Les when he was hired, I was not happy then, but I gave him his opportunity before going negatiger...
Les miles took over an Oklahoma state program that had 1 winning season in 14 years and he had them winning 9 games. Oklahoma state went from getting recruiting classes in the 80's and 90's to multiple top 25 classes under Miles. Hell Miles had more success at Oklahoma state than Saban had at Michigan State. Miles had also been an offensive coordinator.
This hire and hiring Les Miles are not in the same universe.
I guess people think im joking when i say this is the most unqualified hire in big 6 history. Again, derek dooley had a better resume when UT hired him.
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