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re: Gymnastics National Semifinal Meet Thread/ LSU ADVANCES TO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Scoring seems to be slightly looser but not by much



OU on pace for 198
Posted by TigerFan112
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:19 pm to
I don’t know how Georgia got a 198+ at regionals.
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:41 pm to
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I don’t know how Georgia got a 198+ at regionals.



Inflation

That regional was a joke. The 4th place team was above 197.500
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:44 pm to
Yep. I remember that.

Interested to see who gets #2 in this regional.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:52 pm to
It’s Denver. Nice.

OU stays below 198.

I feel great about tomorrow.
Posted by TigerBait55
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:53 pm to
If the scores hold,

Kennedi Edney is the National Champion on Vault (ties with 3 others)
Sarah Finnegan is the National Champion on Bars (solo)!

2nd time for both!
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:03 pm to
I will never trust the judges in NCAA gym.

If LSU wants to win, they have to be pretty much perfect.

Posted by TigerBait55
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:06 pm to
Well to be clear,

That is the case with or without the judges. If every team is perfect tomorrow, LSU will not win. We need OU and UCLA to stumble somewhere and we need to hit every routine starting with Finnegan’s vault tomorrow.

I have seen Floor scores fly stupidly the last two years during the last rotation of the Super Six-so if we are close (.1-.2) going into Floor tomorrow, we have a strong shot.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:30 pm to


Posted by whoa
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:07 pm to
So how does Nichols win the AA when they mentioned multiple times she only competed in the AA like twice all season?
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:07 pm to
LETS frickING GEAUX
Posted by seanerin
New York
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:24 pm to
A couple of thoughts and a question:

1. Sarah Finnegan is one of the greatest athletes to ever wear the purple and gold. I wish more understood just how elite an athlete she has always been. At one point, she was considered one of the greatest young gymnast in the country (and the world) prior to her injury.

2. I hope the thread tomorrow is stickied. After all, these LSU tigers are competing for a national championship.

3. Question in reference to floor routines: I hope those who have an understanding of fundamentals can answer this question. I have noticed a few gymnasts (most notably Katelyn Ohashi) end tumbling runs on the floor with a bounce into another "move." (Sorry, don't quite know the right word). Whereas Sarah (and most gymnasts) end each run with a "landing," Katelyn seems to just bounce into a move (like the bounce-split). Is that an easier way to end runs as she doesn't have to stick the landing of each tumble? Almost seems like that approach "hides" the landing. Sorry for all the quotations.
Posted by Slippy
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:35 pm to
What is our rotation tomorrow? Please tell me we aren't starting on beam.
Posted by DC4LSU
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:37 pm to
Starting on Vault
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:37 pm to
seanerin...I agree about the landings on floor. The difficulty in actually sticking landings on tumbling passes is so much higher than when they bounce out of a pass into a split or some other move (your term "hides the landing" was spot on). It seems crazy that they are judged equally. I love our floor routines, but would it make more sense for us to do the same thing?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:37 pm to
I am not a gymnastics expert but I generally follow the results and one of the things I've discerned over the years is that gymnastics is not a sport where upsets are commonplace. The teams that are supposed to win, generally win.

UCLA is supposed to win in 2019 and I wouldn't be shocked if the judges find a way for that to happen.

That said, Geaux Tigers!!



This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted by seanerin
New York
Member since Aug 2007
413 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 9:44 pm to
TF112, I agree. I love the sport and have followed it on the international stage and the ncaa stage for years (mostly because I have taught students who were deeply involved). I can only think of the difference (ending a tumbling run with a "landing" vs ending with a bounce into something else) in terms of physics. Physics tells me that ending a run by bouncing into something else reduces the "final impact" of each run, whereas ending a tumbling run with a dead stop landing would be far more difficult. But then again, my understanding of physics and gymnastics is limited.

It's remarkable that they are scored equally, though. Kate has a QS of 10 (per someone's post earlier) and she does not end tumbling runs by "sticking landings." BTW, I am a fan of Kate's gymnastics and think she is a remarkable person and athlete. Yet, she is nowhere near as fundamentally sound as Sarah. :)

Also, I wish I had better control of the jargon so I wouldn't have to rely on "" so often. :)

Thanks for the response.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 9:50 pm
Posted by GeaauuxxFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:03 pm to
I just saw Maggie did two passes on floor tonight. That is unacceptable in my opinion for this stage. The code needs to change. And how embarrassing that UCLA code whores their floor routines jumping and leaping all over the place out of their passes. They never look in control, but yet have scored outrageous scores all season. This has to change.

I’m still not over Ohashi scoring a 9.925 today after coming in short on her first pass. Sarah came in short on her first pass as well, and scored a 9.875. That’s the difference of a championship tomorrow night.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:10 pm to
And Maggie won the AA
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67903 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 11:13 pm to
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I just saw Maggie did two passes on floor tonight. That is unacceptable in my opinion for this stage. The code needs to change. And how embarrassing that UCLA code whores their floor routines jumping and leaping all over the place out of their passes. They never look in control, but yet have scored outrageous scores all season. This has to change.



I'm laughing because everything in this post is true

The reason UCLA does all these stag jumps and leaps out these passes is one, it hides landings, and two it gives them even more bonus in their routines. LSU should take note and maybe try to incorporate a few of those type of routines next year.

Don't even get me started on Nichols, I could go on and on over her scoring and the actual difficulty/execution of her routines.
This post was edited on 4/19/19 at 11:16 pm
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