re: Greedy on difference between LSU and Alabama

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Greedy isn't on he level of Fournette or McCafferey

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Greedy is a top 5 talent in this draft and is projected to go in the top 10. I'd say that puts him on Fournette's level and above McCafferey.

All of this is starting to get commical. Bunch of baws who say they are mad because Greedy is a quitter, but are actually pissed because Greedy's signing bonus will be more than what they make in 40 years. In b4 "muh, money isn't everything. He owes LSU."

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Could have said we do t have the sec office and refs I. Our back pocket

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While we do get some bum calls, it's not like we were getting loads of touchdowns overturned.

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Greedy is a top 5 talent in this draft and is projected to go in the top 10

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Hes not getting hit every single play. All he has to do is run next to a wide receiver close enough to where the QB doesn't throw the ball in his direction. Fournette and McCafferey risk injury's every time the touch the ball (20-25 times a game). CBs risk injury like (3-7 times a game)

LSU vs. Alabama:

2018: 29-0 Bama
2017: 24-10 Bama
2016: 10-0 Bama
2015: 30-16 Bama
2014: 20-13 Bama
2013: 38-17 Bama
2012: 21-17 Bama
2011: 9-6 LSU, 21-0 Bama
2010: 24-21 LSU
2009: 24-15 Bama
2008: 27-21 Bama

Average score over the past decade: 23-12 in 12 meetings.

2-9 record. Three shutouts. LSU hasn't scored more than 3 touchdowns since 2010.

Sooo....I'm not a calculus teacher, but it seems like if you average 12 points a game against a team over 10 years, then you have a problem scoring the football.

If any of you are replying with anything other than "Greedy is correct" then you probably need to look in a mirror.

Because LSU not scoring against Bama isn't even a trend at this point, it's a tradition.

Another thing to add beyond scoring as pointed out by Greedy is that they just simply have more talent on both offense, and :gasp:! dare I say it: Defense! But of course another thing is coaching. Another thing is money. And on and on.

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Greedy is a top 5 draft pick you fricking retard.

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potentially. Some mocks have him that high, others have him as being picked later in the 1st round. In no way is Greedy locked in as a top 5 pick.

Saban spoke on this sitting out topic and made some really good points. While he didn't place blame on players, he did say we created this. He said he thinks every player benefits from playing well and when you play well in big games that it enhances your value as a player. But he said due to "us" deeming that these games aren't important, it sends the message to the players the games aren't important. And the more we try to devalue any game that isn't a playoff game, then this problem is only going to get worse. In a nutshell, he thinks it's sad we have tried to make bowl games unimportant and players sitting out the bowl games are nothing more than a product of what we have created.

Here is the video LINK

I mean he’s right but at the same time he is always playing in important games.

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I mean he’s right but at the same time he is always playing in important games.

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I don't really see his opinion changing if his team wasn't playing in the CFP. We saw Jamarcus Russell elevate himself into the #1 pick in the draft after the Sugar Bowl. Had he not had a huge game, I have my doubts he would have gone #1. So there is definitely value in playing in these games.

For example, Greedy is rated as low as 22 in some mack drafts. Let's say that is, in fact, his value as of today. Do you think having a huge game in the Fiesta Bowl may enhance his value and bump him up? The difference in guaranteed money between the #22 pick and the #5 pick in last year's draft was 11.6 million dollars. That seems to be pretty good value.

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His opinion definitely wouldn’t change but at the same time look how his team does in NC games vs consultation bowls?

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How is it relevant whether his teams won when they didn't make the CFP? Unless he had players sitting out those bowls I don't see it. The worst two bowls his teams have played in at Alabama were both wins, 2010 after a very disappointing season for them and they completely dismantled their opponent (11-1 Michigan State) by a score of 49-7.

Sure bowl games are important. If you look at them for what they are. They are nothing but one more game that rakes in millions for universities, broadcasters, and sponsors.

Everyone, including and especially Saban, wants to pretend this is all about the team, the players, student-athletes, etc.

Well, why doesn't CFB have a postseason like every other college sport? Hell, FCS and lower tier college football even have a playoff. Because there are too many people making too much money to change the bowl system.

All bowls were ever designed to do is give teams a chance to travel to play teams they normally couldn't play and give fans a destination they normally wouldn't follow their teams too. This system is so antiquated it's ridiculous.


Let's look at an article about bowl games. A brief history of college bowl game

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During the 1930s, other warm-weather locations followed Pasadena’s lead and latched onto New Year’s Day college football games as a way to lure tourists—and their dollars—seeking a mid-winter break.

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With six bowl games on the New Year’s Day calendar in 1937, an Associated Press headline proclaimed “‘Bowl’ Grid Games Are Here to Stay.” That was in spite of the vocal opposition of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), which had just unanimously adopted a report that held post-season bowls had no place in college football “because they serve no sound educational ends, and such promotions merely trade upon intercollegiate football for commercial purposes.”

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Bowls haven't transitioned into money grabs, they've literally always been money grabs, the notion of that bowl games aren't important is not new phenomenon.

So is saban wrong? In the case of greedy williams, yes. Greedy williams came to lsu to prepare for the nfl. If you think there's any other reason he came here then you are wrong. He's prepared for the nfl. He's locked up a top 10 draft status and played in the regular season. The bowl game is meaningless for greedy williams. It's got nothing to with character or quitting or anything. The bowl game is the definition of meaningless for greedy because he can only hurt himself and his chances in the nfl by playing in it. It's meaningless for devin white. He's choosing to play, but it's still meaningless. I'll be hoping he doesn't get injured but he's a fool for even risking injury at this point. That too has nothing to do with character or any of that nonsene.