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re: Great assistants aren't always great head coaches
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:58 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:58 pm to lsu2006
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Can this idea that Jimbo is garbage without Winston just go away?
If you get rid of that assumption, there are a couple of choices remaining:
a. Jimbo had one decent QB on the team. So he didn't recruit well for a number of years and we're back to Jimbo being garbage.
b. Jimbo goes into a season with a set plan, and if anything disrupts that he can't adjust and we're back to Jimbo being garbage.
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:46 pm to OchoDedos
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Orgeron...case in point
Are you going to update your opinion when LSU beats Georgia next season?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:53 pm to atltiger6487
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correct, but you greatly reduce the risk if you hire a proven commodity, whether it's as head coach or any other job. You don't wait until he's here, with a big contract, to find out he's the wrong guy. Especially for head coach, which is critically important. I don't mind taking a flyer on a position coach once in awhile, but not for head coach or coordinator. This concept is common sense - I don't know why it's getting such push back.
It's a trade off. You're going to pay a premium for the proven commodity, but you're paying for the known performance. That guy has the leverage.
There's greater potential for value if you hit on an up-and-comer, but there's greater risk as well. But the offering school usually has the leverage, especially when they're a bigger program like LSU.
Depends on how well you trust your AD to evaluate a coach's skill set.
BTW, just found out that PJ Fleck's getting paid the same as Orgeron. That turns my stomach.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:53 pm to Goldrush25
quote:me too. We could've paid O half of what he's making. Hell, we could've kept his D-line coach salary the same and he'd have taken the job.
BTW, just found out that PJ Fleck's getting paid the same as Orgeron. That turns my stomach.
Yes, $3.5 million is less than the market rate....but we still didn't have to pay nearly that much. And certainly not with the buyout.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:sure there are, but I'd much rather hire a guy who's had proven success. Not a controversial concept.
You act like this is a fool proof method when there’s a pretty long list of failures from existing head coaches.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:05 pm to TheHarahanian
if orgeron can't win more than 8 or 9 games a year then may as well give aranda a shot.
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