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re: Great article about depth issues..orgeron is definitely facing a challenge..
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:29 am to lsu2006
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:29 am to lsu2006
His only success has been in interim positions. Quite literally the exact opposite of rebuilding, or building at all, a program.
There is nothing on his resume' to suggest he is capable of this.
There is nothing on his resume' to suggest he is capable of this.
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:29 am to cas4t
I have full confidence in him building the dline
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:30 am to Dawgfan128
I do too, I guess. Since that's been his role for most of his coaching career.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:31 am to lsu2006
quote:
quote: Well they are now.
Which says way more about LSU than it does State
EXACTLY
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:38 am to Chrisb6586
ANYONE 4 weeks ago should have known that #12 rating was FOS...............lol
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:40 am to Chrisb6586
The 2011 team LSU had 10 starters who were either Freshman or Sophmores, It's weird in the past 17 years I haven't heard anyone blaming the lack of depth as a reason for losing and now it is a major issue even thought our starting Oline and Dline is mostly Seniors and Juniors. Why didn't we hear of depth issues before the Miss St game?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:42 am to martiallaw
quote:
The 2011 team LSU had 10 starters who were either Freshman or Sophmores, It's weird in the past 17 years I haven't heard anyone blaming the lack of depth as a reason for losing and now it is a major issue even thought our starting Oline and Dline is mostly Seniors and Juniors. Why didn't we hear of depth issues before the Miss St game?
because
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:52 am to Dawgfan128
quote:They mostly seemed to be under control prior to the regime change.
The last several he has gone downhill in trenches and settling on high-risk character guys. It caught up.
I sense deflection in your posts.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:06 am to gettin there
What are you going to say when they get back there ?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:10 am to Mayhawman
Deflection? They didn't even sign guys in the trenches a few years ago. Some of the talented ones they have been getting are bad apples. I know you love miles. I thought he was great for Lsu for many years. It is obvious that recruiting has suffered in the trenches, but it is turning back around at least on the dline. Shelvin and the transfer from tt will help out greatly next year on the DL...and also the TT transfer at wr....maybe deculous (spelling) will pan out at tackle.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:12 am to cas4t
Look...you have an agenda. I'm not an O pumper, but to act like Lsu is not severely limited in the trenches right now is just flat out lying in order to pump your own agenda.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:14 am to Dawgfan128
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. I'm not an O pumper
Yeah... You kind of are. 99% of your posts are lashing out at people with legitimate gripes re: Orgeron. You can say you aren't a supporter all you want but your posts tell a different story.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:15 am to cas4t
Yet there is one example a decade ago where he failed at a bottom feeder...and that's all that matters to you. When you get out there and get a real job, I hope you never have things go against you and you get fired. If you do, maybe you learn from it and improve.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:19 am to lsu2006
I'm not. I think it is ridiculous though that many of you are allowed to bash O relentlessly..it isn't good for the program, the players, or the coaches. Constructive criticism is absolutely warranted. Excessive personal bashing isn't. I suspect that some of that is changing on here though. We get it, he failed at ole miss. I'm not thrilled at all with the hire, but I'll give the guy his chance THIS YEAR and try and remain objective in the process.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:22 am to Dawgfan128
quote:
I'm not. I think it is ridiculous though that many of you are allowed to bash O relentlessly..it isn't good for the program, the players, or the coaches.Constructive criticism is absolutely warranted. Excessive personal bashing isn't.
Constructive criticism:
- His only stint as a permanent coach was a massive failure
- No other team showed any interest in him as a permanent head coach
- We've had over 30 penalties in his first 3 games in his first year.
- We just had a historically bad loss to State in his first SEC game
I'd love for you to link 1 solitary post of my "personal bashing" of O.
Also, you know what's REALLY bad for the program? Getting the doors blown off by State on national TV in the first SEC game for a new coach.
quote:
but I'll give the guy his chance THIS YEAR and try and remain objective in the process.
Are you encouraged by what you've seen so far?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:24 am to Dawgfan128
Was LSU severely limited in the trenches last year?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:26 am to Dawgfan128
quote:
you have an agenda
And you don't?
I have an agenda. It's to call anyone who was bashing Les in the head continually as late as September, 2016 for not meeting expectations with the talent we had and now turns around to attempt to excuse O and the LSU performance WE all saw against Mississippi State because we are, within a year, so talentless that a fricking State can been over us over on the football field a fricking clueless clown.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:26 am to lsu2006
You want constructive criticism?
I am concerned on the hire at OC. I'm not going to bash Canada and will give him a chance this year, but that may have been a questionable hire. Time will tell.
As for D...I am not sure why we didn't go after juco. I am not sure when knew of herron suspension....the multiple injuries, suspensions. You can bet he wasn't expecting the dl we had at state most of that game. Maybe expecting shelvin...
I am concerned on the hire at OC. I'm not going to bash Canada and will give him a chance this year, but that may have been a questionable hire. Time will tell.
As for D...I am not sure why we didn't go after juco. I am not sure when knew of herron suspension....the multiple injuries, suspensions. You can bet he wasn't expecting the dl we had at state most of that game. Maybe expecting shelvin...
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:27 am to lsu2006
quote:Exactly.
Which says way more about LSU than it does State
People obviously chose to not watch the first two games.
LSU had waaayyyy more horespower than BYU and Chattanooga yet looked pretty bad, getting outplayed in the trenches.
When facing equal or similar talent we are in a bind, and that is all on the shoulders of LSU coaches and players.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:27 am to Chrisb6586
Orgeron was responsible for recruiting prior to being named HC.
He sold himself as the continuity coach. He would fix the offense and all would be good.
He didn't sell himself as this is a rebuild job.
Total BS.
He sold himself as the continuity coach. He would fix the offense and all would be good.
He didn't sell himself as this is a rebuild job.
Total BS.
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