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re: Gottlieb just slammed Miles!!
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:35 pm to junkfunky
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:35 pm to junkfunky
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To be so much of a pussy that you can't pick up the phone, send an email, post a tweet, etc. is shitty.
I agree. That was a shitty way to "de-commit."
Well, I just won't show up, I guess they'll figure it out.
Miles and the other coaches are just supposed to say, "Well, I guess he had a change of heart. I mean, don't you think?"
"Sure seems like it coach but who knows. No one heard from him."
All that results in speculation from the coaches who recruited him. Are they supposed to be professional with the way they handle it? Sure. Can they get a little annoyed with how it went down at the 11th hour? Damn right. I don't blame Miles for saying what he said.
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Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:35 pm to Cap Crunch
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There is a HUGE difference there
Why? Seriously , why should there be a double standard? Personally, I didn't have a problem with oversigning to an extent.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:36 pm to Doc Fenton
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it's consistent with a long-term pattern of behavior where Miles's ego is getting more and more out of control.
BOOM. Couldn't have said it better.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:40 pm to Doc Fenton
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recruit who decided to leave over two weeks ago.
If it wasn't an EE situation, I would completely agree with your points, but this was an EE and it cost us another recruit.
I am more upset at the process as I assume LM was/is. You know it wasn't until Saban said "pimps" that anything was actually done about the agents.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:41 pm to Elleshoe
Where do yal get this ego is getting out of control crap? What football coach doesn't have an ego?
You guys just keep inventing reasons to bitch about miles.
You guys just keep inventing reasons to bitch about miles.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:44 pm to EarthwormJim
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Where do yal get this ego is getting out of control crap? What football coach doesn't have an ego?
And if anything, I think it might have been bigger in '08 than any other year he's been here.
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You guys just keep inventing reasons to bitch about miles.
KIGE
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:45 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Miles is doing his job by appealing to the frustrations of the fan base. Unfortunately, at the expense of Gunner Kiel, who did indeed frick LSU out of two very good recruits including himself. There is a definition to the word commitment, and Kiel proved he was not committed by his actions. period.
Gottlieb basically did the exact same thing Miles did by appealing to the interests of his listeners, which is to be interesting, provocative, and controversial. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of Les Miles who did, in fact, call out an 18 year old MAN for not following through on his commitments. A lesson he probably should have learned by this point in time in his life. If not, its on the parents, who took the blame in the first place.
Just my $0.02.
Gottlieb basically did the exact same thing Miles did by appealing to the interests of his listeners, which is to be interesting, provocative, and controversial. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of Les Miles who did, in fact, call out an 18 year old MAN for not following through on his commitments. A lesson he probably should have learned by this point in time in his life. If not, its on the parents, who took the blame in the first place.
Just my $0.02.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:51 pm to biglil3
I haven't bothered reading through the entire thread, but 25 credit card fraud jokes are the bare minimum anytime Doug Gottlieb tries to bash anyone.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:53 pm to legohairedman
Who is the kid here?
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:53 pm to biglil3
heres the thing, did Les say anything egregious? no, but should he have said anything at all? frick no
what is there to be gained? all youre going to do is come off exactly like he's being portrayed. call out nick saban or alabama, but not a recruit, thats just dumb
what is there to be gained? all youre going to do is come off exactly like he's being portrayed. call out nick saban or alabama, but not a recruit, thats just dumb
Posted on 2/3/12 at 5:56 pm to Keys Open Doors
the average age of the people responding they have no problem with this have to be between 12-24.
I just dont see how a fellow adult could be ok with a middle aged man that is the CEO of a multi-million dollar product mocking a teenager for the thrill of those in attendance.
It isnt about Kiel's reaction or his feelings. Its about Miles acting like an adult and THINKING before he says something, which is has become blatantly apparent he doesnt do.
I just dont see how a fellow adult could be ok with a middle aged man that is the CEO of a multi-million dollar product mocking a teenager for the thrill of those in attendance.
It isnt about Kiel's reaction or his feelings. Its about Miles acting like an adult and THINKING before he says something, which is has become blatantly apparent he doesnt do.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:00 pm to DBG
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what is there to be gained? all youre going to do is come off exactly like he's being portrayed. call out nick saban or alabama, but not a recruit, thats just dumb
One could also argue it sets a precedent for future recruits who are contemplating deceiving the LSU program by hiding under the guise of committed, when they are in fact, anything but. This is not the first time this has happened to Miles (see J. Jackson). I can't blame Miles for reminding recruits that they better have the chest to commit to the program, otherwise Miles will call you out if you are detrimental to the recruiting class, even if it maybe unintentional.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:03 pm to biglil3
GK broke his word and it caused ripples in the LSU program. Making and keeping a promise is fundamental to enter into adulthood. Maybe GK will take the step eventually. Miles is treating him like a man instead of a the child he is by calling him out on his broken commitment. With great talent come great responsibility...hopefully this kid will be more responsible in the future. Geaux Tigahs and Give'em hell Les Miles.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:03 pm to Doc Fenton
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It's not just some goofy gaffe. It was a deliberate attack on the character of a recruit who decided to leave over two weeks ago. I don't want to make too much out of it, but in it's own small way, it was a really crazy fricking thing to do. I mean, why? Just why? It's bad character.
I think its a little milder than that. Its a booster rally. Hes rallying the fans and is pumping up his own players...Should he have said it? No. The shitty thing in all this is that Brian Kelly will say much worse about him every day on the field and Nick Saban did a far worse thing by pulling two schollies but you will never see anything about that.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:03 pm to legohairedman
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Its about Miles acting like an adult and THINKING before he says something, which is has become blatantly apparent he doesnt do.
Get over yourself.
He's supposed to just lay down and say nothing about Kiel? It was hardly egregious.
The kid committed to Indiana, de-commited, committed to LSU, never showed up (in his mind, de-commited but didn't have the balls to tell any of the coaches that recruited him. Take the pansy way out and just not say anything or show up.)
The coaches have a right to be a little annoyed knowing that it cost them 2 very good recruits. Like I said in an earlier post, I don't blame Miles for saying what he said.
I doubt, highly, he said it simply to "thrill those in attendance."
If you hate the guy so much, which you obviously do, you can't make one post without pissing on the man, take your hate somewhere else. You'd make a good Bama fan.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:04 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:WOW!
It's not just some goofy gaffe. It was a deliberate attack on the character of a recruit who decided to leave over two weeks ago. I don't want to make too much out of it, but in it's own small way, it was a really crazy fricking thing to do. I mean, why? Just why? It's bad character. By itself I would probably ignore it, but the problem here is that it's consistent with a long-term pattern of behavior where Miles's ego is getting more and more out of control. People can write me off as a disgruntled former fan of Miles all they want, but I'm telling y'all right now, the guy feels high and mighty and he's getting farther and farther out of touch with perspective. My bet is that we'll continue to see more incidents like this from Miles in the future.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:05 pm to legohairedman
quote:You're agenda is clear!
the average age of the people responding they have no problem with this have to be between 12-24. I just dont see how a fellow adult could be ok with a middle aged man that is the CEO of a multi-million dollar product mocking a teenager for the thrill of those in attendance. It isnt about Kiel's reaction or his feelings. Its about Miles acting like an adult and THINKING before he says something, which is has become blatantly apparent he doesnt do.
BTW: I approve of what Miles said, and I'm older than the age range you chose to select.
Feel free to keep adding to the pussification of America.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:10 pm to That LSU Guy
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BTW: I approve of what Miles said, and I'm older than the age range you chose to select.
Exact same here.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:11 pm to That LSU Guy
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It's not just some goofy gaffe. It was a deliberate attack on the character of a recruit who decided to leave over two weeks ago. I don't want to make too much out of it, but in it's own small way, it was a really crazy fricking thing to do. I mean, why? Just why? It's bad character. By itself I would probably ignore it, but the problem here is that it's consistent with a long-term pattern of behavior where Miles's ego is getting more and more out of control. People can write me off as a disgruntled former fan of Miles all they want, but I'm telling y'all right now, the guy feels high and mighty and he's getting farther and farther out of touch with perspective. My bet is that we'll continue to see more incidents like this from Miles in the future.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 6:11 pm to That LSU Guy
18 year olds aren't kids. Nothing wrong with what Miles said cause what Kiel did was punk arse.
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