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re: Give Les a ‘little’ credit?

Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by ShadowTigerTX
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2016
472 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:54 pm to
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He led LSU to some dark times


No. Curley Hallman led LSU to some dark times. Come on. Les clearly had issues with his stubborness in regards to the offense, and he had issues with time management too, but he was hardly the devil incarnate.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11580 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:05 pm to
But he did nothing with the hires that mattered in the big picture.
Posted by I 10 one lane merge
Member since Oct 2018
314 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:25 pm to
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He hired Ed O, Aranda, and Ensminger? And his refusal to do anything but toss dives turned us into the greatest offense ever. Give it up!


Les Miles does not work at LSU. Has not in 4 years and did not create the success seen this year. No credit given.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30239 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:40 pm to
Les apologists are a low form of life.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:44 pm to
If Les deserves no credit for this year, then surely you believe Les deserves sole credit for the '07 championship with no credit to Saban.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:48 pm to
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What about the ND game?


The Notre Dame loss was pure luck. That last play was a freaking miracle. So hell no, I don't blame Ed O for that loss cause it was a freaking miracle. Give me a freaking break. Was he suppose to predict a miracle would occur? How was he supposed to know? How should he have foreseen that miracle play?

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This is so fricking awesome. The 2018 team didn't back into their ranking but the 2007 team did. Man, I really love having your hypocrisy back!


The A&M loss was really a rip off by the referees more than it was anything else, even though idiots like you losers were still stupid enough to blame Ed O for it.

Meanwhile, the Florida loss went down to the very wire. We were in it to the very end. As the game could have easily gone either way. Indeed, the game was closer than the final score indicated.

The only bad loss in 2019 was the Alabama loss, which was due to the offensive line not being able to handle Quinnen Williams and the fact that Joe Burrow was still dealing with a separated shoulder injury. Not to mention that the team just didn't play well in that game at all.

Nevertheless, you can't take away the fact that LSU, which you guys predicted would finish either 6 & 6 or 7 & 5 before the season, was the only team in the country in 2018 to play and beat four teams that were ranked in the AP Top Ten Poll last season.

Hell, LSU didn't back its way into anything. Maybe in the people's minds like you who hate Ed O with a passion, but not in anyone else's minds. Indeed, anyone who wasn't biased as phuck knew the A&M loss was a complete and utter ripoff.

Meanwhile, in 2007, Les Miles blew two games to two teams LSU should have blown away and everyone knew like in 2006 that we missed out on another opportunity to win a natty.

Then a miracle miraculously happened. A heavily favored West Virginia team choked big time and lost to a very mediocre Pittsburg team.

Which swung the door open for an LSU team that, for all intents and purposes, was already out of it, to back its way into the title game with one of the best teams Nick Saban had ever recruited.

And, of course, once LSU backed its way into that title game in 2007 even with two damn losses, then nothing, not even Les Miles, at that point could stop LSU from inevitably winning that game and the natty, and then becoming the first team in the BCS era to win a BCS National Championship with two freaking losses.

Now, of course, you are very proud of that natty, but I'm not you, as that 2 loss natty always left a very bad taste in my mouth. Not only because of those two games Les Miles blew in the regular season to lesser teams, but also because of the extremely freakish way we made it into that natty title game.

In fact, that's one of the reasons why I was ready to get rid of the old BCS system.

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Not what I asked. Nice deflection.



Yeah, but he did! He blew the 2011 national title game cause like you, he is a freaking clown!
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18745 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:48 pm to
Fuk dat goober.
Posted by Mike9999
Member since Sep 2016
110 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:49 pm to
Les Miles was stale, was awful with the QB position. If there was an awful QB he would find him. With Coach O we now have the focus on a multi-threat offense that is not afraid to throw the ball down the middle and wear defenses out with the run. Consistently on the attack is what we now do.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30239 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:49 pm to
I'd say that's fairly accurate.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:54 pm to
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Meanwhile, the Florida loss went down to the very wire. We were in it to the very end. As the game could have easily gone either way.

Good Lord you're the dumbest person on earth. The 2007 losses were both in OVERTIME!!!
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The only bad loss in 2019 was the Alabama loss

We didn't lose to Bama in 2019.
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Hell, LSU didn't back its way into anything. Maybe in the people's minds like you who hate Ed O with a passion

I never said they back into anything in '18. I was asking about your logic because you're contradicting yourself left and right.
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Yeah, but he did! He blew the 2011 national title game

He absolutely did. I never said he didn't.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:55 pm to
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I'd say that's fairly accurate.

Thank you for being one of the only people with an ounce of consistency in your opinion.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:57 pm to
Ugh, muh talent .
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Ed lost in DV 2016 when UF could barely field 22 due to injuries and then again in 2018.


Anyone with more than half a brain knows that loss was pure bad luck cause Guise went right when he should have gone left. Yet, because you are a devout Ed O hater, you blame Ed O for that loss. Typical.

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Pure gold.


If you weren't severely mentally handicapped, you'd know it too. In fact, that is the reason why he isn't employed by LSU today. Yet, you love Les Miles and wish he was still the head coach as much as you hate Ed O with a passion!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:59 pm to
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Anyone with more than half a brain knows that loss was pure bad luck

Jesus you have an excuse for everything. You said that LSU was crippled by injuries vs Troy. Wouldn't that same logic suggest that LSU shouldn't have gone down to the wire vs an injury plagued Gator team?
Posted by hay fighting tiger
hay field
Member since Oct 2007
504 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:00 pm to
He refused to play the best players on the team because of his ego.frick Les.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Good Lord you're the dumbest person on earth. The 2007 losses were both in OVERTIME!!!


Go cry to your mother! They were losses to teams LSU should have blown away!

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We didn't lose to Bama in 2019.


I have fat fingers, sue me.

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I never said they back into anything in '18.


Go back and read your own damn posts!

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He absolutely did. I never said he didn't.



I'm glad you finally concur.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37594 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:05 pm to
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He also squandered more NFL-quality talent than most college coaches ever get in their careers. Just think of how many national titles we might've won if he had just gotten out of his own way.


An average D1 coach would have led us to back to back titles(likely undefeated at that) in '06 and '07.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:06 pm to
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I never said they back into anything in '18.


Go back and read your own damn posts!

I don't need to. You said Miles backed into a championship and I asked if YOU thought they backed into the #6 ranking. I believe that both teams earned their positions due to the results on the field that season.
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I'm glad you finally concur.

I never disagreed about the 2011 championship game. You're just all over the place trying to justify one opinion on Coach O while not applying the same logic to Miles. Then you used the lazy argument about hating Orgeron.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:12 pm to
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Jesus you have an excuse for everything.


Everyone who isn't utterly obsessed with apologizing for Les Miles while hating on Ed O like you knows that is not an excuse but the damn truth.

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You said that LSU was crippled by injuries vs Troy.


There were a number of LSU players injured and out for those two games against Moo State and Troy state. If you are too damn stupid to believe me, then go back and check.

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Wouldn't that same logic suggest that LSU shouldn't have gone down to the wire vs an injury plagued Gator team?


If any team was injury-riddled in that 2018 Florida game, it was LSU. As we had several starters that didn't play in that game. However, all except one of them returned just in time for the UGA game the following week.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104561 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:18 pm to
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Everyone who isn't utterly obsessed with apologizing for Les Miles while hating on Ed O like you knows that is not an excuse but the damn truth.


Another lazy argument. I like Orgeron as a coach much more than I ever liked Miles. Your "how was he supposed to know" excuses could just as easily be applied to any loss by any coach ever.
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If any team was injury-riddled in that 2018 Florida game

You brought up Guice going the wrong way. Guice didn't play in the 2018 game. Fact of the matter is that Florida had more significant injuries vs LSU in 2016 than LSU did when they played Troy in 2017. As I said, you're logic is completely crazy and you're contradicting yourself all over the place. It hilarious and I thank you. I really need this distraction.
Posted by TB69
Member since Oct 2008
331 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:20 pm to
frick that dude. We should have one or 2 more titles but for that dumb arse.
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