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re: Get Nola out and..
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:05 pm to tiger golfer1
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:05 pm to tiger golfer1
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ochinko.
Other than ochinkos red hot start to the season, his entire carrer he has been an average to below average hitter. People who are saying that he has shown he can be consistent are crazy. As the competition got tougher this year his average went down.
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Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:06 pm to tiger golfer1
quote:
MLB or not that is a stupid argument because every hitter goes into slumps
Are you comparing Sean Ochinko to Lance Berkman?
quote:
that is a stupid argument because every hitter goes into slumps
mmmmhhhmmmm.....Nola
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:06 pm to tiger golfer1
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This post was edited on 5/21/09 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:09 pm to josh336
Anyone who says ochinko is consistent has not paid much attention this season.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:13 pm to Dizz
okay we get it. they are both having a tough time . but the way i see it ochinko is going through a hitting slump and he'll come out of it eventually...Nola just can't hit worth shite...tht's what it comes down to
This post was edited on 5/21/09 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:13 pm to josh336
nola hasnt hit since he got here, Ochinko is still hitting over .320
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:14 pm to tigerfan011
quote:
but the way i see it ochinko is going through a hitting slump...Nola just can't hit worth shite..
Good thing you aren't coaching the LSU team.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:21 pm to josh336
quote:in no way do i dislike nola, he's going to be great, and is our future shortstop, i just think he got thrown in to early and I think it has shown
josh336
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:23 pm to tiger golfer1
you say it like it is fact that he isn't a good hitter, he's only been in there a few weeks, give him time
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:24 pm to josh336
what do you expect his BA to be at the end of the season
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:24 pm to Golfer
quote:
Ochinko is still hitting over .320
He got hot non-conference for a few weeks and his average went through the roof. Just becuase his average is still high does not mean he is hitting the ball well. Watch the games he is struggling at the plate regardless of his average he is not producing and has not in a while.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:26 pm to tiger golfer1
probably around .270
which means he'll hit over .285 the rest of the way, and that's against really good pitching
which means he'll hit over .285 the rest of the way, and that's against really good pitching
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:26 pm to Dizz
quote:
He got hot non-conference for a few weeks and his average went through the roof. Just becuase his average is still high does not mean he is hitting the ball well. Watch the games he is struggling at the plate regardless of his average he is not producing and has not in a while.
He was batting around .490 a month into the season against the crap teams, I believe.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:27 pm to Golfer
where the site that shows the averages in SEC games
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:30 pm to tiger golfer1
yeah, please pull out ochinkos batting average in SEC games, and then his OBP in those games compared to Nola
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:35 pm to josh336
quote:
yeah, please pull out ochinkos batting average in SEC games, and then his OBP in those games compared to Nola
do this if you want to look bad
SO = sucks in SEC
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:35 pm to lsutigers75
Nola isnt hurting us bro...Regardless of what you think, he's most probably gonna be the starter for the rest of the season FWIW
Posted on 5/21/09 at 9:41 pm to JmanfromTigerland
quote:
Nola isnt hurting us bro
not DEfensively....
Posted on 5/21/09 at 10:34 pm to tigerfan011
I really do not understad the fanatical loyalty Nola breeds in y'all. I think he will be a very good player. He just isn't one right now and is clearly overmatched against SEC pitchers.
And his lauded defense, while good, is not demonstrtably better than DJ's. I do not feel the massive offensive hit we are taking to play Nola is worth the slight defensive upgrade, especially since it removes Schimpf's glove to the outfield, where it is less valuable.
And to answera much earlier question
Hanover is hitting 312/343/425
Nola is hitting 229/353/343
I am very unhappy with Hanover's lack of plate discipline. If he took an extra walk a weekend, his OBP would be about 400. But he's a good contact hitter and has shown power. I've got my problems with Hanover, but I think he's done as well as could be expected (which is put up virtually identical if not inferior numbers to Helenihi). Nola just can't hit right now at all.
I'm not really sure what Helenihi did to raise the ire of the Tiger faithful (and get benched by PM), but Helenihi will have the misfortune of losing playing time in two consecutive seasons to a player he clearly outhit (hollander last year and Hanover this year), all while being a plus defender. Amazing.
I like Nola. I really do. I just don't think he gives us our best chance to win RIGHT NOW.
And his lauded defense, while good, is not demonstrtably better than DJ's. I do not feel the massive offensive hit we are taking to play Nola is worth the slight defensive upgrade, especially since it removes Schimpf's glove to the outfield, where it is less valuable.
And to answera much earlier question
Hanover is hitting 312/343/425
Nola is hitting 229/353/343
I am very unhappy with Hanover's lack of plate discipline. If he took an extra walk a weekend, his OBP would be about 400. But he's a good contact hitter and has shown power. I've got my problems with Hanover, but I think he's done as well as could be expected (which is put up virtually identical if not inferior numbers to Helenihi). Nola just can't hit right now at all.
I'm not really sure what Helenihi did to raise the ire of the Tiger faithful (and get benched by PM), but Helenihi will have the misfortune of losing playing time in two consecutive seasons to a player he clearly outhit (hollander last year and Hanover this year), all while being a plus defender. Amazing.
I like Nola. I really do. I just don't think he gives us our best chance to win RIGHT NOW.
Posted on 5/21/09 at 10:45 pm to Baloo
Ya'll are gonna have to explain to me how Helenihi out hit Hollander last year, I'm missing that one
Hollander .297/.374/.459
Helenihi .295/.355/.407
Hollander also has more homers and rbis
Hollander .297/.374/.459
Helenihi .295/.355/.407
Hollander also has more homers and rbis
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