re: gary crowton fans why should he stay?

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heartbreak Tiger

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you calling out anyone in particular?

nah not really anyone in particular. its more for anyone that thinks keeping gary is the right move. Its just piling on to me being correct in that we should fire gary

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gary crowton fans why should he stay?

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he's a good family man that's always classy.

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crowton never throws the deep ball unless it's a must.

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Not sure what you mean by "unless its a must". One of the things I have liked about Crowton over Jimbo Fisher has been his willingness to call for the long ball from our end of the field. Jimbo would never call a deep pass unless we had crossed the 50. Now maybe Saban wouldn't allow it, I don't know, but when the other team shows blitz presnap, Crowton has always let his QB audible to a deep fade regardless of field position. Since none of us know how many deep passes are called for from the sidelines but not executed its impossible to make a judgement on this. I understand that you haven't "seen" many long balls, but what you "see" isn't always the whole story.

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he avoids play actions/tricky motions.

I truly don't know what to make of this one, if anything Crowton is TOO in love with tricky motions and formations. I consider that to be one of his main weaknesses as a college OC. If you were to break down the film of all his games since he has been here, and chart the plays, I think you would be surprised at how much play action he really uses



[quote]his weak side options and silly wr screen passes don't cut it in the SEC. Pretty much everytime LSU lines up in formation, i know exactly what play they're going to run

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Weak side options and WR screens are in every play book of EVERY team in the SEC. If you haven't seen every team run them you just haven't been watching close enough. Even Spurrier ran a couple in this years SEC championship game, did you notice? You have let the fact that we haven't run them very well color how much you think we run them. JJ was VERY poor last year at it and not much better to start this year but by years end the play was actually becoming a positive for the offense. I'm sure JJ was running it better in practice than he was in the games and that gave GC the confidence to call it but JJ, until just the last 5 games or so, really wasn't doing it well in the games. This can be baffling for a coach, kid does it good in practice, but for whatever reason just can't do it in the game. (see JL for throwing off his back foot and not looking off receivers, you don't think they are working with him on this in EVERY practice?)

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that doesn't help improve our o and us win games.

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well, aside from being a good recruiter, it's the most common thing miles supporters say about why he should stay here. i figure if it gets miles a pass for the on the field ugliness he's responsible for, it should get crowton one too.

the sad part is some people actually believe that is a legit reason to keep someone that sucks at his job

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I think you would be surprised at how much play action he really uses

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bullshite

'cause les likes him and i don't give a rat's arse what you think.

day 2 and not one valid defense for keeping gary. imagine that

I am far from a GC fan but I am not a hater. I thought he did a decent job of calling plays in the second 2/3's of the season.

GC gets a lot of heat for the qb play but it is just a guess as to how JJ and JL would have played with a different OC. It is quite possible that the best OC would not be able to generate a ton of offense when you have JJ throwing passes that hit the ground before the ball gets near the receiver and this is passes often in the backfield.

I mean I don't think it is possible to be so bad of a coach to cause a qb to be that crappy.

Hate to have to defend GC but the fact that LSU has has a bad offensive line the last two years and no freaking qb to speak of pretty much means your offense is going to suck. The line improved this year but they were not good just average.