re: Games where Mett could have received PT last year

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Based on what? You don't think preparing for a situation where Mett may have been needed wasn't necessary?

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You mean besides the fact that we were 13-0 and won with a margin of victory of (13, 46, 13, 26, 28, 30, 31, 35, 3, 33, 49, 24, 32) against a schedule that many said was the toughest to have ever been played in the BCS era?

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In hindsight, it was.

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Told ya.

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And, in game 1, when we tried to throw it downfield with Lee, we saw exactly what many were afraid we would see. We saw a QB who flinched in the pocket and let the ball go too early, and/or threw it to the defense.

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He was doing fine before he got taken out the game. Was he playing great? No. Was he necessarily having a good game? No. But he was doing enough, and getting some near misses that were helping to set up future runs.

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The 2011 team for everything that it was that was great, was a team that had to run to set up the pass. The minute the running threat wasn't there, this team was in trouble.

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Where are you getting this from? This is only true once JJ took over the reins. In what prior games did LSU need to be successful running before it started airing the ball out?

It's funny, whenever the team was doing great with Lee as the starter, everybody would talk about how great and under-appreciated both QBs were once they had Krags rather than Crowton, and how important it is for both to contribute.

Once Jefferson takes over as starter, everybody immediately changes their tune and says, "well, don't act like it's a big deal because both QBs suck anyway."

It's a bizarre double standard, to say nothing of how it ignores the Mett factor.

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I think that the biggest problem with every single thread about coaching decisions between JJ and JL is this:

Neither of these QB's was an above average SEC QB. Neither of them. JL was a better passer than JJ, but he was terrible facing a pass rush, he was immobile at best, and he made questionable decisions. JJ, on the other hand, was a terrible passer that had a few bright spots, was adequate running the ball but took too long to make the decision to do so often (or, conversely, he made a premature decision to run/pass and never veered from that decision). Neither of them brought much to the table, at all.

LSU's "greatness" in 2011 was based on defense and special teams creating big plays and short fields for our offense. Mentally, this team "broke" every team it played, except Bama, because they were relentless. Our QB play in 2011 was no better than in 2008 or 2009, in my opinion, because we still had two guys back there who were pretty much clueless. I am hopeful that Krag has been working with Mett closely, knowing that this would be his team in 2012.

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Yep

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You have no clue whether he would have settled or not. He had played well all year long.

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He was given time to settle down and was given a second chance. He turned the ball over on the very 1st play back in the game. Running Lee back out there would have been suicide.

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If Les didn't likeLee, heshould havehad anadequateQB prepared for the last game, but he didn't.

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He had Lee prepared. He chose not to bring him in.

Eta: It is more likely we win in regulation if Lee never comes back in the game.

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Lee isn't the one who played for 7 quarters against Bama without scoring a TD. He only had the first one. If he never failed to score before, why would he fail now? If other teams could score TDs on Bama, why not LSU?

Your ROTF emoticons aren't an argument for what would have happened had Lee never been taken out.

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This. Despite what everyone thinks, JJ did not come in and "save" the win on 11/5. The defense and special teams that played lights out saved that game. I still think Lee could have led LSU to at least one TD and we win the game in regulation.

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Lee isn't the one who played for 7 quarters against Bama without scoring a TD. He only had the first one. If he never failed to score before, why would he fail now? If other teams could score TDs on Bama, why not LSU? Your ROTF emoticons aren't an argument for what would have happened had Lee never been taken out.

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1 TD, 7 INTs over his career against Bama. He wasn't gonna score. He had as many completions as INTs against Bama. He was rattled. You know it. I know it. Jefferson came in and made a few plays, led a few drives that led to points being scored and victory over Bama.

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He was given time to settle down and was given a second chance. He turned the ball over on the very 1st play back in the game. Running Lee back out there would have been suicide.

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Ok, Nostradamas. LSU won with JJ finishing out the UGA game and he threw three passes to defenders and fumbled. LSU won. One play in regulation could have changed that game.

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He had Lee prepared. He chose not to bring him in

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One day you people will wake up. JJ wasn't coming out if Tom Brady was a first year QB in Mett's position. If Les didn't trust Lee, he should have had Mett prepared. He lived and died by JJ and he failed, like many expected.

That's a total bullshite argument.

For the first time in his career, he had control of the team from the opening game, and he was doing as well as he ever had, and the offense was rolling. Please cut the crap with this "you know he was scared" bullshite.

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You are missing the big point which is that Lee needs a running game.

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You are missing the point. If Les didn't trust Lee, Mettenberger should have been prepared and seen action. EVERY QB needs a running game in this type of game.

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Lee with no running game and a team that is getting a lot of pressure is a disaster.

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JJ was a disaster. Could it have gotten worse?

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If LSU was moving the ball on the ground, but every drive was being stalled because Jefferson was just failing to make plays, then I think you would have seen Lee.

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They weren't, and Lee, Mett or both should have been given a shot.

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Having said that, I agree that at some point Lee should have come into the NC game. I'd bet my house that it wouldn't have made a difference. But, It would have been a last resort type of decision where we decide to throw all risk out of the window and hope we get lucky and make a play or two.

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The truth is that Les was going with JJ all the way regardless of what happened on the field.

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Ok, Nostradamas. LSU won with JJ finishing out the UGA game and he threw three passes to defenders and fumbled. LSU won. One playin regulation could have changed that game.

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Lee completed almost as many passes to Bama as he did his own team. His 2nd int almost cost us the game. His previous history against Bama suggests it wasn't going to be good results.

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One day you people will wake up. JJ wasn't coming out if Tom Brady was a first year QB in Mett's position. If Les didn't trust Lee, he should have had Mett prepared. He lived and died by JJ and hefailed, likemany expected.

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Everyone understands this. That doesn't mean Lee wasn't prepared to come in. He decided to stick with JJ, hoping that he could come through with a big play. Like he had the previous 2 times against Bama. Obviously it didn't work out.