re: "Game Managers" Do Not Win Championships

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Our 2 recent national championship teams had game-managers at QB.

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They both set LSU records for touchdown passes in a season. Also both threw more than 11 interceptions. How the frick is that "game managing." They were both clearly playmakers. You are not precluded from being one just because you are white.

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Were Flynn and Mauck game managers?

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I don't think so.

The last "game manager" to win a championship was Kreg Krenzel, who threw for 12 TDs and 7 INTs I believe.

Mauck threw for 28 TDs and 14 INTs, while Flynn threw 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I was confident both guys could make an important, game-changing play if it was needed.

I also think that there is a big gap between game managers and all world QBs. Jamarcus was an old world QB who could consistently beat you. The focal point of the offense, if you will. Kreg Krenzel was a game manager. His job was to hand the ball off and NOT frick up. Mauck and Flynn are in between JR and Krenzel. They can consistently make plays, but they are not the focal point of the offense the majority of the time.

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Neither was even drafted in the first 7 rounds of the NFL draft. If they were playmakers, they would have been drafted sooner and be excelling in the NFL right now.

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Troy Smith and Ken Dorsey were incredible playmakers, but they weren't highly drafted players.

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Neither was even drafted in the first 7 rounds of the NFL draft. If they were playmakers, they would have been drafted sooner and be excelling in the NFL right now.

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Alright, you're too stupid to participate too. Thanks for playing, but GTFO.

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Neither was even drafted in the first 7 rounds of the NFL draft.

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Really?

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Were Flynn and Mauck game managers?
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I don't think so.

The last "game manager" to win a championship was Kreg Krenzel, who threw for 12 TDs and 7 INTs I believe.

Mauck threw for 28 TDs and 14 INTs, while Flynn threw 21 TDs and 11 INTs. I was confident both guys could make an important, game-changing play if it was needed.

I also think that there is a big gap between game managers and all world QBs. Jamarcus was an old world QB who could consistently beat you. The focal point of the offense, if you will. Kreg Krenzel was a game manager. His job was to hand the ball off and NOT frick up. Mauck and Flynn are in between JR and Krenzel. They can consistently make plays, but they are not the focal point of the offense the majority of the time.

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This.

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Neither was even drafted in the first 7 rounds of the NFL draft. If they were playmakers, they would have been drafted sooner and be excelling in the NFL right now.

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Eric Crouch, Danny Weurfel, and a bunch of their buddies are laughing their asses off right now.

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They managed....wisely.

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Please explain to me how Matt Mauck throwing for 28 TDs and 14 picks is managing "wisely." Dude made big plays all year--both good ones and bad ones. But he made more good than bad. Calling him, Flynn, and Jefferson mere game managers is insulting to all three of them. How can y'all be so stupid as to not realize this? They are better than that.

If I see where you are going with this correctly you are referring to a game manager qb as one that you can't even depend on to make any play when needed unlike Flynn and Mauck you could go to them from time to time and the game on the line to make a big play for you...if that is the case I agree even though I do believe they were both good game managers as well...

so game managers aren't capable of making big plays or having a good TD to INT ratio? are you discounting the notion that the game manager could have some great weapons at his disposal, and a good offensive line?

game managers use the talent around them to make big/great plays.

That is what Mauck, Krensel, Flynn and I say Leak did very well. Therefore they are game mangers.