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re: Game 1 of Super Regional LSU is up 2-1 Top 8th and Anderson is out the game
Posted on 6/6/25 at 1:53 pm to moneyg
Posted on 6/6/25 at 1:53 pm to moneyg
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Obviously Eyanson gives you the best shot of winning on Sunday. That's not the smart question to ask. The smart question is whether him starting on Monday gives you a better chance of winning than him starting on Sunday.
You don't worry about Monday(a game you might not even play)before you play a game Sunday. Like i said no coach with a brain pitches off in a SR. It's absolutely asinine.
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You are facing that same chance in game 2 fool.
No shite but at least one of your aces is on the mound and you can still win a low scoring game and say you gave it everything you had to win. That's more logical then basically throwing a game away to make it to a 3rd game that if you lose you are done. Not sure how this isn't getting through to you. Tennessee literally just did this in 2022 and didn't start Dollander game 1 of the SR and they lost and ultimately lost the SR and they were heavily scrutinized for doing so. You don't ever concede a game in a SR whether it's game 1 or 2
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 2:06 pm to Tigershine
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Is Sheerin ready yet?
Yea saving him to debut in Omaha. Secret weapon
Posted on 6/6/25 at 2:07 pm to Double Oh
I tend to agree
Posted on 6/6/25 at 2:08 pm to CharlestonTiger
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The bigger question is game 2. Let's assume we win game 1 and Eyanson hands off a 4-3 lead in the 7th. Who do you go to there? Evans (all chips to the center with trip to Omaha on the line) or whoever is left in the bullpin after Friday
Game 2 is obviously Evans for me. I don't know 100% that Evans will be available on Saturday after throwing 109 on Monday. And even if he is available Saturday he probably won't be 100%
Posted on 6/6/25 at 2:09 pm to WigSplitta22
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That's more logical then basically throwing a game away to make it to a 3rd game that if you lose you are done.
I'm not in favor of holding Eyanson for game 3 but just to play devils advocate Jay did concede game 2 of the CWS finals in 2023 so that we could go for the win in G3 and it worked perfectly
Posted on 6/6/25 at 2:57 pm to WigSplitta22
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You don't worry about Monday(a game you might not even play)before you play a game Sunday
Retard, the assumption is that we've won game 1. In that scenario, you will get a game on Monday in the worst case scenario. And, if you don't, then obviously you are happy about that because that means you won without needing to start Eyanson.
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Like i said no coach with a brain pitches off in a SR. It's absolutely asinine.
Retard, it's not pitching off. It's deciding to take advantage of the extra day that your pitcher needs because he would otherwise be on short rest in a week where he not only started and went 100 pitches but then pitched AGAIN two days later.
It's asinine to not realize this.
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No shite but at least one of your aces is on the mound
Retard, one of your aces is on the mound in game 3 as well.
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and you can still win a low scoring game and say you gave it everything you had to win
Retard, you can still win a low scoring game in game 3 as well.
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That's more logical then basically throwing a game away to make it to a 3rd game that if you lose you are done
Retard, you aren't throwing away a game. You'll go to battle with the staff in the same way you would under normal circumstances in game 3. You are simply deciding to take advantage of the situation of being up a game and using the extra day to rest the guys you need to rest. quote:
You don't ever concede a game in a SR whether it's game 1 or 2
This really just shows how incapable you are of thinking logically. The order of the games doesn't impact the likelihood of winning UNLESS you are just saying you don't trust the team in more of a pressure situation. That would at least be a logical point.
I believe that given Eyanson was overworked last week in addition to being on short rest, means you need to take advantage of the extra day if you have it. Frankly, it applies to Evans as well. It's a lot to expect Evans to be on the top of his game for any extended appearance after his workload on Monday. If you had a rested Evans sitting there for game 3, then the risk of Eyanson being on the top of his game isn't as big.
I could see that. If LSU rolls in game 1 and Evans isn't needed, I could see Jay deciding to go with Eyanson on short rest and saving Evans for game 3 unless we are in a great position to close it out. But, if Evans is needed in game 1, I just don't see the value in taking additional risk of pitching a tired Eyanson in game 2. Doesn't make sense.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 3:05 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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I don't know 100% that Evans will be available on Saturday after throwing 109 on Monday. And even if he is available Saturday he probably won't be 100%
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I'm not in favor of holding Eyanson for game 3 but just to play devils advocate Jay did concede game 2 of the CWS finals in 2023 so that we could go for the win in G3 and it worked perfectly
I'm not sure why you'd be concerned about Evans' workload but not Eyanson's. Eyanson pitched twice and would be slated for a long outing this weekend.
At least Evans would be slated for a short outing if he's pitching on Saturday or Sunday.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:25 pm to moneyg
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moneyg
In this thread you’ve proven you have made it this far in life with half a brain and that’s pretty remarkable. Congrats on that accomplishment
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:30 pm to moneyg
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I'm not sure why you'd be concerned about Evans' workload but not Eyanson's.
Eyanson has been building up to this since preseason and also isn't a freshman. He's also didn't go 17 days without pitching before throwing a career high # of pitches on Monday night. The majority of his pitches came 7 days before his next start and his 20 pitches on Monday aren't much more significant than a midweek bullpen.
Evans might be 100% for a short outing on Saturday, idk but theres definitely a good chance hes not. These are the types of things Jay gets paid to know
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:34 pm to Howyouluhdat
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In this thread you’ve proven you have made it this far in life with half a brain and that’s pretty remarkable. Congrats on that accomplishment
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:40 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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but just to play devils advocate Jay did concede game 2 of the CWS finals in 2023 so that we could go for the win in G3 and it worked perfectly
No he didn’t. We didn’t have Skenes available so Floyd(our next best starter) started game 1. UF tore the cover off the ball game 2 and I believe Ackenhausen started that game. Game 3 it was all hands on deck led by Riley Cooper. Jay had no choice when Skenes wasn’t available
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:46 pm to Howyouluhdat
Damn some of you speak with such confidence while being very wrong.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 4:57 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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Eyanson has been building up to this since preseason and also isn't a freshman
That’s true but pitching twice in 2 days and then turning around on shirt rest is abnormal and way outside of the norm.
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He's also didn't go 17 days without pitching before throwing a career high # of pitches on Monday night.
It sounds like you are saying the 17 days makes it harder for Evans to bounce back. I don’t think that’s the case. Even so, Eyanson had a very short stint the week before too. Frankly I think that helped him last weekend.
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The majority of his pitches came 7 days before his next start and his 20 pitches on Monday aren't much more significant than a midweek bullpen
Yeah, I don’t agree. He had to completely heat it up in the bullpen and then do it for real. That’s more than a bullpen. However it is good that he was limited to 20 pitches. That’s crazy good when facing 6 batters.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:05 pm to Howyouluhdat
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No he didn’t. We didn’t have Skenes available so Floyd(our next best starter) started game 1. UF tore the cover off the ball game 2 and I believe Ackenhausen started that game. Game 3 it was all hands on deck led by Riley Cooper. Jay had no choice when Skenes wasn’t available
It wasn’t the same situation. And LSU didn’t concede. The used their pitchers in a manner that they thought would work best. They didn’t simply say; I’m pitching may best in game two regardless of how rested he is because I don’t want to get to game 3.
They had to pitch a staff type game in game 2 because if the circumstance. And we all know Skenes didn’t pitch in game 3, but if he were available, then that situation would have been similar.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:10 pm to moneyg
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It sounds like you are saying the 17 days makes it harder for Evans to bounce back. I don’t think that’s the case. Even so, Eyanson had a very short stint the week before too. Frankly I think that helped him last weekend.
Yea its 2 different things. Eyanson threw around 50 pitches in the SECt. That's a rest week to help recover for regionals. Evans went 17 days without pitching and even that outing 17 days before was only 1 inning. That's a layoff, not a rest. And they weren't starting from a level playing field either, Eyanson had been conditioning for a starting role for months, Evans only a few weeks.
Jay said they had been planning for this for Eyanson for a while. I'm not concerned about it with him because it's part of the plan that they've been working towards with him. Evans threw 109 pitches on Monday out of necessity because our season was on the line. He handled it well. But I don't think you can argue that his arm is conditioned the same way Eyansons is
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:15 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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But I don't think you can argue that his arm is conditioned the same way Eyansons is
No. I think he went about 20 pitches further than he should have.
My argument is that Eyanson being prepped to start in a Fri and close on a Mon is one thing. But him doing that and then expecting him to start on 5 days rest after doing that is totally different. And, the decision to do that would be theoretically be made when, as you say, the season wouldn’t be on the line. And, the decision to do that could presumably be made in a game when Evans isn’t available for the reasons you mentioned.
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:17 pm to Double Oh
Matty Ice
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:53 pm to moneyg
I hadnt read all the messages so hadn't noticed you were advocating for Eyanson on Monday if we win game 1. I think Jay has a pretty good feel for these things and I wouldn't be upset with either option. Those of us who are arguing on the internet have no way of knowing what individual state each of these arms are in. My only argument in this thread was all the people saying they're going to Evans in the OP situation but I don't think it's that cut and dry
Posted on 6/6/25 at 5:58 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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I hadnt read all the messages so hadn't noticed you were advocating for Eyanson on Monday if we win game 1
Obviously you have to throw Eyanson if you are facing elimination.
You don’t have to if you aren’t. And I don’t think you should.
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