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re: Funny how 1 game has Les Miles out of the top 10 college coaches
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:35 pm to FLObserver
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:35 pm to FLObserver
We have better players than Stanford does, no doubt about that. And comparing coaches by their resume is pointless, considering the levels of talent at each school. I mean do you remember what Nick Sabans record was before he came to LSU? He was 34-24 at Michigan State.... not exactly setting the world on fire there. But he still was a great coach.
You just said that... so why cant I have Shaw ahead of Miles then? Like someone said, its all subjective. Besides Saban, you can rank the top college coaches in any order and are interchangeable. Its all personal preference. Les Miles is a damn good coach, def a top 10 coach in the country. So is Shaw. You literally said Miles isnt better than him. Its all personal preference.
Watch Stanford play. They are 1 of the most fundamental and technical sound football team in the country. Oregon, USC, and UCLA are more talented than Stanford. Yet Stanford is the team that typically wins that conference. And its because they are extremely well coached, arguably the best coached team in the country. They do not make nearly the same amount of mistakes as other teams in the country do.
Using what Harbaugh left him?
thats funny. Shaw has been the coach for these last 3 seasons, going on his 4th season. Everyone has been expecting Stanford to drop off after losing Harbaugh and then Luck. But they havent. If you can say Shaw is winning with what Harbaugh left him / his players then someone could say Les Miles won a title with Sabans players. Its the same thing. I dont believe that at all, but the concept is the game.
I dont think Patterson should be on that list. Nor should Sumlin. Hes a good coach but I want to see what he and TAMU do without Manziel.
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I'm not saying les is better
You just said that... so why cant I have Shaw ahead of Miles then? Like someone said, its all subjective. Besides Saban, you can rank the top college coaches in any order and are interchangeable. Its all personal preference. Les Miles is a damn good coach, def a top 10 coach in the country. So is Shaw. You literally said Miles isnt better than him. Its all personal preference.
Watch Stanford play. They are 1 of the most fundamental and technical sound football team in the country. Oregon, USC, and UCLA are more talented than Stanford. Yet Stanford is the team that typically wins that conference. And its because they are extremely well coached, arguably the best coached team in the country. They do not make nearly the same amount of mistakes as other teams in the country do.
Using what Harbaugh left him?
thats funny. Shaw has been the coach for these last 3 seasons, going on his 4th season. Everyone has been expecting Stanford to drop off after losing Harbaugh and then Luck. But they havent. If you can say Shaw is winning with what Harbaugh left him / his players then someone could say Les Miles won a title with Sabans players. Its the same thing. I dont believe that at all, but the concept is the game. I dont think Patterson should be on that list. Nor should Sumlin. Hes a good coach but I want to see what he and TAMU do without Manziel.
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:50 pm to FLObserver
I'd put him at #4 in all of college. Behind Saban, Spurrier (because he has raised two programs to top level in UF and USCe), Meyer (what he has done at Utah, UF, and OSU), Snyder (this guy does more with less than anybody), and tied with Dantonio. Stoops for what he has done at Oklahoma is great no matter how you spin it.
Briles did elevate Baylor and TCU has been great with Patterson. Peterson does get merit for dominating opponents with similar talent. It would be between Shaw, Kelly, and Fisher to round out my top 10.
Briles did elevate Baylor and TCU has been great with Patterson. Peterson does get merit for dominating opponents with similar talent. It would be between Shaw, Kelly, and Fisher to round out my top 10.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:55 pm to FLObserver
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They did have a point though top coaches dont let their teams play to the levels of the competiton. That is defintely an issue with Les at times
All coaches do this. Have you seen some of the wins and losses Saban has had at Bama even though he dominates the competition in recruiting? Snyder lost against the best FCS team In CFB, but still an FCS team. Meyer has done the same, so has Jimbo (before this year, FSU fans were split and more to the side of hating his play calling). I've seen it several times from all these coaches. That's a lame arse excuse that holds no real water.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:55 pm to Datbayoubengal
Sumlin makes absolutely no sense. Dude hasn't won shite, a cotton bowl and a chicken bowl isn't even a shite stain on Les Miles draws
The relevance of this top 10 ended when Sumlins name was put up over Les.
The relevance of this top 10 ended when Sumlins name was put up over Les.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:57 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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Sumlin makes absolutely no sense
But OMG he beat Bama that one time and OMG Johnny Football!!!!!!11111
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:00 pm to FLObserver
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radio today
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:00 pm to Gray Tiger
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OH MY GAWD!!!! You heard that on a talk radio show!!! It's the end of the world!! We will all be killed. It's over. I mean a radio talk show. The ultimate in truth and fact. Do we commit suicide or just wait for the world to end?
I can understand what you are saying, but this shite was just on NFL.com. They are doing their 14 best list and Miles isn't even on there. They have the guy from Duke and Oregon State ahead of him. They even have Spurrier at 11
ETA:
Well, it is just a list by a single person instead of a poll so whatever. I got worked up over nonsense.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:01 pm to FLObserver
Can we just stop giving a shite about these stupid top 10 coaches lists? WE know LSU is fine with Les at the helm. That should be enough.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:01 pm to FLObserver
LINK
Here is the NFL top 14 coaches
14. Mike Riley, OSU
13. Jimbo Fisher, FSU
12. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
11. Steve Spurrier, USC
10. David Cutcliffe, Duke
9. Gary Patterson, TCU
8. Mike Dantonio, MSU
7. Bob Stoops, OU
6. Art Briles, Baylor
5. Bill Snyder, Kansas St.
4. David Shaw, Stanford
3. Urban Meyer, OSU
2. Chris Petersen, Washington
1. Nick Saban, Alabama
Here is the NFL top 14 coaches
14. Mike Riley, OSU
13. Jimbo Fisher, FSU
12. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
11. Steve Spurrier, USC
10. David Cutcliffe, Duke
9. Gary Patterson, TCU
8. Mike Dantonio, MSU
7. Bob Stoops, OU
6. Art Briles, Baylor
5. Bill Snyder, Kansas St.
4. David Shaw, Stanford
3. Urban Meyer, OSU
2. Chris Petersen, Washington
1. Nick Saban, Alabama
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:02 pm to Tiger Nation 84
quote:It's a terrible list.
Here is the NFL top 14 coaches
14. Mike Riley, OSU
13. Jimbo Fisher, FSU
12. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M
11. Steve Spurrier, USC
10. David Cutcliffe, Duke
9. Gary Patterson, TCU
8. Mike Dantonio, MSU
7. Bob Stoops, OU
6. Art Briles, Baylor
5. Bill Snyder, Kansas St.
4. David Shaw, Stanford
3. Urban Meyer, OSU
2. Chris Petersen, Washington
1. Nick Saban, Alabama
So what?
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:03 pm to drizztiger
Was just posting to the thread for people to see. I know it is terrible
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:04 pm to Datbayoubengal
It really is nuts. No one has put more guys in the NFL in the last few years than Les. I don't get it. I guess 10 wins in the SEC just ain't what it used to be.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:06 pm to Tiger Nation 84
quote:Yeah, sorry, wasn't really directed at you.
Was just posting to the thread for people to see. I know it is terrible
It's just a terrible list. Therefore, no reason for the masses to get upset. But they will.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:07 pm to FLObserver
There arent 10 guys who can CEO a major SEC program better than Miles. There arent many who can last 10 years period in the SEC.
Him not being included in this list has to be an x's and o's thing. It's certainly not based on the job requirements of the HC.
1. Win
2. Graduate
3. Nfl Pipeline
4 No sanctions
etc.
Add in the longevity and the peace of mind he's not leaving to the NFL and I could care less about any list or nat'l perception. When its all said and done, Miles will be considered one of the greatest COLLEGE coaches of all time.
Him not being included in this list has to be an x's and o's thing. It's certainly not based on the job requirements of the HC.
1. Win
2. Graduate
3. Nfl Pipeline
4 No sanctions
etc.
Add in the longevity and the peace of mind he's not leaving to the NFL and I could care less about any list or nat'l perception. When its all said and done, Miles will be considered one of the greatest COLLEGE coaches of all time.
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:12 pm to Datbayoubengal
I do support Cutcliffe on this list. I know the ACC doesn't compare to the SEC overall, but Duke football was the worst of the worst before he got there: No bowls since 1994, lucky to get a single ACC win. Now they're division champions in just 6 years, which was unthinkable before. Cutcliffe can flat-out coach.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:14 pm to FLObserver
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:16 pm to RedlandsTiger
Bleacherreport lol
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:17 pm to VermilionTiger
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Sumlin hasn't won a conference championship yet
W/O JFF, Sumlin is at least on the hot seat if not worse.
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:19 pm to ElderTiger
Yea, no Manziel is gonna be rough this season. Lol
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:23 pm to LSUdm21
All that NFL talent without the NC's to show for it probably enters into their thought process don't you think?
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