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re: Frank wilson finalist for the Tulane job
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:16 am to Brandincookem
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:16 am to Brandincookem
He's been a strong candidate for over a week
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:18 am to Blktiger
Tulane doesn't need a position coach. They didn't learn that last time? They need a guy who has been in charge of a staff aka a former head coach or an OC. CJ didn't know how to lead a staff because he had no exp doing it. Lol how can they make the same mistake twice. Leave frank with us please.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:25 am to UptownnMike
I love the rant....Tulane is a shite job where careers go to die, BUT they need a talented play caller and someone "better" than a position coach who is one of the best recruiters in the country
I'm sure talented play callers and creative offensive minds are falling from trees begging for the chance to recruit in and around New Orleans and in the rest of the state LSU calls home to be the head coach at Tulane.
I'm sure talented play callers and creative offensive minds are falling from trees begging for the chance to recruit in and around New Orleans and in the rest of the state LSU calls home to be the head coach at Tulane.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:27 am to Blktiger
Why does Frank want to kill his shot to be a head guy before it even gets started by taking over that graveyard?
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:30 am to therick711
What other jobs do you think Frank is being offered?
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:33 am to LSUfan4444
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What other jobs do you think Frank is being offered?
I have no idea. The blueprint for moving up is generally position coach, coordinate, head coach. He hasn't been willing to take the pay cut to go coordinate somewhere at this point. I understand that, but sometimes you have to invest a little in yourself to get to the end goal. Jumping at a Tulane job that hasn't really launched anyone in coaching isn't the answer for someone as talented as he is.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:34 am to therick711
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He hasn't been willing to take the pay cut to go coordinate somewhere at this point.
That's because he wants to be a head coach.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:36 am to LSUfan4444
Yea they need to upgrade to a more modern game. I feel sorry for those schools who run boring offenses........
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:37 am to LSUfan4444
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That's because he wants to be a head coach.
So does everyone else. The problem is you generally have to be a coordinator somewhere before you can get a job that won't likely end your chance to be a head coach. Tulane has to hire position coaches because that job is a coach killer. No one has survived it in 30 years.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:38 am to therick711
quote:What careers did the Memphis job launch prior to Fuente?
Jumping at a Tulane job that hasn't really launched anyone in coaching isn't the answer for someone as talented as he is.
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Breaking: Good coaches > historically bad programs. If you hire the right guy, any situation can be turned around.
He's not getting any other offers. Tulane is the only HC job he would even be considered for and I don't believe he's being seriously considered regardless of the reports.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:41 am to therick711
Your ignoring the reality of what is for what you think it should be.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:41 am to D011ahbi11
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What careers did the Memphis job launch prior to Fuente?
That actually proves my point. You are more likely to be Larry Porter (like everyone else was) than Fuente. Just because there is a one and a million chance, doesn't mean you shouldn't try and line up for a job that launches people by following the career path. Arkansas State, Western Kentucky, Colorado State, Utah State, Houston . . . there are plenty of good middle jobs that can launch you, you just have to go and take the next step first.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:43 am to therick711
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Tulane has to hire position coaches because that job is a coach killer. No one has survived it in 30 years
Man, this is so dumb
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:43 am to LSUfan4444
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Your ignoring the reality of what is for what you think it should be.
Actually, that's precisely what Frank and people who think he should take the Tulane job are doing. Frank should go get a coordinator job somewhere if he wants to move up or keep making his $700k to coach at LSU. Taking the Tulane job would be killing the golden goose, imo.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:44 am to D011ahbi11
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Man, this is so dumb
Sure. I forgot about all those wonderful names who became titans of the sport after being launched by Tulane.
The NCAA and NFL are packed with guys from the Tulane tree. Good point.Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:47 am to therick711
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That actually proves my point. You are more likely to be Larry Porter (like everyone else was) than Fuente. Just because there is a one and a million chance, doesn't mean you shouldn't try and line up for a job that
Nah, if you're a good coach you'll succeed.
And how did you miss Rich Rod and Bowden "surviving" at Tulane.
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:48 am to D011ahbi11
When was Rich Rod the head coach at Tulane?
I didn't miss Tommy Bowden, I don't consider his tenure at Clemson successful given that he never did anything better than he did at Tulane. I'll give you this, he turned it into a better job. He also had the last name of Bowden, though. Frank isn't exactly the son of CFB royalty.
I didn't miss Tommy Bowden, I don't consider his tenure at Clemson successful given that he never did anything better than he did at Tulane. I'll give you this, he turned it into a better job. He also had the last name of Bowden, though. Frank isn't exactly the son of CFB royalty.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:50 am to therick711
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therick711
You don't understand it do you? The competitiveness and confidence that coaches of the D1 level have. You think he looks at it like "Tulane has never had a coach go on to become coach of a major powerhouse" instead of "I'm a great coach that can resurrect this program and I'll become the hottest up and coming coach in the nation".
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:52 am to 7thWardTiger
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You don't understand it do you? The competitiveness and confidence that coaches of the D1 level have. You think he looks at it like "Tulane has never had a coach go on to become coach of a major powerhouse" instead of "I'm a great coach that can resurrect this program and I'll become the hottest up and coming coach in the nation".
Just because Frank might be stupid enough to commit career suicide doesn't mean I don't understand coaches choosing to be irrationally stupid.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 12/6/15 at 11:57 am to therick711
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I didn't miss Tommy Bowden, I don't consider his tenure at Clemson successful
That makes no sense. So for you to consider a guy launching his career at Tulane it means he not only has to successfully use Tulane as a stepping stone to a bigger and better job but he also has to be more successful at that job than he was at Tulane.
All Tulane can do is allow you to be successful enough to move up to a better job
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