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re: Fournette the latest to spark debate over NFL Draft rules
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
No one is FORCING these kids to play in the NFL. They can go "apply their trade" in Canada or somewhere else if they so choose.
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:27 am to Draconian Sanctions
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No, they are 32 separate entities in competition with one another that have colluded with each other and the players union (who want to protect veteran jobs) to restrict otherwise qualified workers who would be offered a job if not for said collusion.
The federal government says other wise
They are not of age, they are not qualified. Deal with it.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:27 am to PhiTiger1764
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No one is FORCING these kids to play in the NFL
The NFL is a monopoly, that hasn't been in question since the USFL's lawsuit against the NFL in the 80's. So that's a nonstarter argument, the NFL is a monopoly.Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:28 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:29 am to Draconian Sanctions
Exemption bro.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:32 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Draconian Sanctions
Do I think he could play at the next level next year? Yes... But if you open that door for him, others are gonna think they can play there as well and then is when something really bad will happen....... Yes a player at 20 with just two years at college could be seriously injured in the NFL..... Its a pretty simple and fair rule..
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:32 am to wildtigercat93
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Exemption bro.
Right the 2nd circuit, which in 2004 was as over the top conservative as the 9th is liberal, had judges who literally walked out of the room when Maurice Clarett's lawyer was making his arguments, made their "decision" to overturn the lower court's good judgment on the issue, so it is what it is, for now. That doesn't make it right nor does it mean the law was applied correctly.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:34 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Bookmarked
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:34 am to dukke v
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Its a pretty simple and fair rule..
Anyone who claims to be a free market conservative should stick to those principles at all times and not shirk from them just because their favorite college football team has a great player (who they get for 3 years for basically free, but that's another issue entirely).
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
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That doesn't make it right nor does it mean the law was applied correctly.
You can make this argument about every piece of law. It's legal, and Isn't going anywhere. So that's all that matters.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:36 am to moneyg
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It will absolutely match his earnings potential for his first contract.
If your not in the league, you don't get endorsements. Rookie contracts are peanuts within the scope of earnings for a star player.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:36 am to SG_Geaux
quote:Spot on, brother.
College is still mostly a bunch of big kids playing football. The NFL is full of grown MEN who are playing for their livelihood.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:36 am to wildtigercat93
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You can make this argument about every piece of law
So you think it's appropriate for judges to walk out of the room when one side starts making its argument? You think that shows impartiality?
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It's legal
for now
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Anyone who claims to be a free market conservative should stick to those principles at all times and not shirk from them just because their favorite college football team has a great player (who they get for 3 years for basically free, but that's another issue entirely).
Being an NFL player is not a privledge, the NFL has the right to deny anyone access to a job above federal limitations of discriminations
The rule isn't about age, it's about years out of high school. so there is no discrimination case, so they can make players be 10 years out of high school if they wanted to.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:38 am to wildtigercat93
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the NFL has the right to deny anyone access to a job above federal limitations of discriminations
the NFL is a monopoly, so no, they don't.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
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judges to walk out of the room when one side starts making its argument? You think that shows impartiality?
You think ducks should be fricking chickens? You think that's cool?
See, what I did there was make an imaginary argument based on something you didn't say.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:40 am to Draconian Sanctions
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so no, they don't.
Well, they do, sooo
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:40 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It's absurd to prevent a player and a team from agreeing to terms when they otherwise would
Disagree.
It makes a TON of sense from an NFL perspective.
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You can't tell me that all 32 franchises wouldn't sign LF to a contract right now.
Nobody is telling you that. In fact, it's quite the opposite. The rules are in place because, obviously, teams would draft these type of underdeveloped players. That's bad for the NFL.
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I also hate salary caps and draft systems. Teams should have the freedom to sign players to whatever contract they deem appropriate and players should have the same freedom rather than being forced to play in a certain city for X amount of years. How would any of you feel if upon graduation from LSU someone told you that you could only ply your trade in Milwaukee?
The NFL is a unique business. Competitiveness between franchises is paramount. To accomplish this without costing the players money, the NFL has reached an agreement with the players union (CBA) that guarantees the players a certain percentage of league revenue.
You are lost.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:42 am to wildtigercat93
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You think ducks should be fricking chickens? You think that's cool?
See, what I did there was make an imaginary argument based on something you didn't say.
You're championing (among other things) that court's decision on the Clarett case so naturally I'm going to question you about the particulars of what actually went down. So why don't you address the reality of what happened rather than dance around the truth of the matter?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Anyone who claims to be a free market conservative should stick to those principles at all times
...says the socialist.
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