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re: Former Tiger Andrew Stevenson off to a hot start...

Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:16 pm to
How old are you. Let me guess diechmann is greatest power hitter at lsu too
Posted by BILLFISHER22
Houma
Member since Oct 2009
1445 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:05 pm to
Where do you guys think Armando Rios fits in with this group?
Posted by GreenGrassnHiTigers
Vermilion
Member since Oct 2016
216 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Best OF catch I have ever seen was Jared Foster down the LF line!!!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Neon Leon was more exciting to watch. I think Stevenson got to more balls though. The knock on Stevenson defensively has always been a subpar arm.

That's been the knock on a lot of our speedy outfielders (Laird, Landry, Stevenson, Duplantis, etc)
Posted by silentspiral
Member since Jul 2016
41 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Cedrick redshirted his first year at lsu during the 1997 season. He was really good for the 2000 championship team.


Whoops. I was young during his time here and only have vague memories of him.

As for Armando Rios, I was learning to walk during his time as a Tiger.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:14 pm to
Mahtook is on an MLB roster.

Landry isn't.

Stevenson has a chance to be on one someday.

But Mahtook isn't in the conversation, got it.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:21 pm to
Stevenson always reminded me of Happy Gilmore's caddy at the Waterburry Open.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Mahtook is on an MLB roster.

Landry isn't.

Stevenson has a chance to be on one someday.

But Mahtook isn't in the conversation, got it.
Mahtook isn't in the big leagues just because of his defense. He's a 5 tool player and much more well rounded than Landry or Stevenson. If we're debating defense alone I'd put Mahtook slightly behind Landry or Stevenson.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:56 pm to
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Raph Rhymes, Mason Katz, and Alex Edward
We went from these three to fraley, Stevenson, and laird in 2 years. Basically polar opposites with regards to speed in the OF
Posted by silentspiral
Member since Jul 2016
41 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:07 pm to
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He's a 5 tool player and much more well rounded than Landry or Stevenson. If we're debating defense alone I'd put Mahtook slightly behind Landry or Stevenson.


I completely agree with this.

Mahtook is an LSU legend and there's not really any debating that. I thought he was excellent defensively, and more than worthy of being included in this conversation. However, there are some in this thread saying that he is nowhere near the upper echelon of defensive outfielders to come through LSU. I strongly disagree with that sentiment.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:12 pm to
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I strongly disagree with that sentiment.


So does every other competent person in this thread.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:22 pm to
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I'd put Mahtook slightly behind Landry or Stevenson.


Mahtook is fast enough and has a much better arm than Stevenson. And he supplanted Landry in CF in '09.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Mahtook is fast enough and has a much better arm than Stevenson. And he supplanted Landry in CF in '09.


Nah bro, Mahtook isn't even in the conversation.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 4:46 pm to
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And he supplanted Landry in CF in '09.

eh, I wouldn't necessarily say he was supplanted by Mahtook. Mahtook started 49 games, Landry 42. Mahtook supplanted Chad Jones when Jones left for spring practice. What happened was, Schimpf was moved from 2nd base to LF, LeMahieu from SS ro 2nd, and Nola from the bench to SS. Then, Mitchell was moved from LF to RF, Mahtook from RF to CF, and Landry was the odd man out. If anything, he was supplanted in the every day lineup by Austin Nola. Landry still had a good 2009 season, batting .300 with 12 HRs and 41 RBIs and was quite a valuable guy to have coming off the bench in the latter part of the season.

It's also worth noting that the following season in 2010 Landry started 60/63 games (Watkins and Dishon splitting 3 starts) in CF and Mahtook 61 in RF.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7064 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:03 pm to
What people can't fathom is there is a difference between being 5 tool player and clutch hitter versus specifically talking about best outfielders in terms of fielding alone. Mahtook is not in conversation. His bat matters none in this conversation specifically
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:08 pm to
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Mahtook is not in conversation

he's definitely in the conversation. That's not to say him having more tools as a player is what puts him in the conversation, but Mahtook was a very good defensive player for us. He had a much better arm than Landry or Stevenson, which seem to be the two players you're comparing him to. And if we're being honest about Landry, his athleticism made up for a a lot of deficiencies he had defensively. He didn't always make the best reads or take the best angles to the ball, and he had a terrible arm. Stevenson, outside his arm, is possibly the best OF we've had in 20+ years. He was fast and athletic but also had incredible instincts as an OF.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 5:09 pm
Posted by silentspiral
Member since Jul 2016
41 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:19 pm to
^^^^^

What he said.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18943 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:06 pm to
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We went from these three to fraley, Stevenson, and laird in 2 years. Basically polar opposites with regards to speed in the OF


I couldn't be happier. There's no sense in not going after slap hitters who's primary tools are glove and speed and then you can plug and chug a power hitter here and there in RF.

Before anyone says "recruit more power hitters with speed"...they don't make it to college.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70791 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:40 pm to
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Mahtook is on an MLB roster.

Landry isn't.

Stevenson has a chance to be on one someday.

But Mahtook isn't in the conversation, got it.


Charlie Furbush > Brett Laxton?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70791 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:41 pm to
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I couldn't be happier. There's no sense in not going after slap hitters who's primary tools are glove and speed and then you can plug and chug a power hitter here and there in RF.



Mason Katz played centerfield in 2012, moved to 1B a year later... that's still crazy to me.
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