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re: For those complaining about Maineri and his lack of bunting

Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:17 am to
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:17 am to
FWIW, even if he had bunted Stevie last night, Chinea struck out after him.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:19 am to
They would've probably walked Chinea.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:21 am to
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Decided to talk baseball with knowledgeable fans .


Good, you might finally learn something useful, but what would knowledgeable fans get out of a baseball discussion with you?

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:21 am to
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But understand you are choosing the play that has a less likely chance of scoring, unless you have a very poor hitter at the plate


Oh my, now we have to worry about situations in baseball, there are factors that influence?

A dude is batting .252 yet is 6 for his last 7. Do you bunt him for sure? What about the .350 hitter that is 1 for 11. Do you let him swing away. What if it is runner on first and second, no out, lefty v lefty?

Does the sliderule have anything for this kinda shite right here
Posted by KJason
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:23 am to
Admittedly I haven't read the entire 9 page thread so this may have been covered

You can't make a blanket statement saying it is always a bad call to sac bunt based on the percentages you posted.

If you have runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and the 9 hole hitter up, do you honestly think it is not a good idea to bunt the runners over and give the lead off hitter a chance to put one in play?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:23 am to
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Oh my, now we have to worry about situations in baseball, there are factors that influence?

A dude is batting .252 yet is 6 for his last 7. Do you bunt him for sure? What about the .350 hitter that is 1 for 11. Do you let him swing away. What if it is runner on first and second, no out, lefty v lefty?

Does the sliderule have anything for this kinda shite right here
Very good point. You realize this was the point of my thread right? The simple "kill CPM for not bunting" mob is what provoked me. He isnt perfect but the morons in our fanbase crucify him in times when he may actually maybe making the correct play
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:24 am to
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Admittedly I haven't read the entire 9 page thread so this may have been covered

You can't make a blanket statement saying it is always a bad call to sac bunt based on the percentages you posted.

If you have runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and the 9 hole hitter up, do you honestly think it is not a good idea to bunt the runners over and give the lead off hitter a chance to put one in play?
It has been discussed. I have pointed out yes there are times when sac bunting is correct
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:29 am to
I hate you
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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56692 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:06 pm to
OK, I have no idea what we are discussing anymore.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:49 pm to
No, it doesn't. I love how these morons that know nothing about baseball start these threads with their own interpretation of bullshite statistics and act like anyone that disagrees is stupid. Here's one: baseball's been around since the 1800's and MLB managers are a hell of a lot smarter and more knowledgeable about the game than you, if bunting didn't work it would've died out a long time ago.

Leave it to a rantard to think he knows more than Bobby Valentine and Joe Torre, I'm sure those guys have looked at a stat or two in their day too, dumbass. I'll trust their interpretation over yours
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:51 pm to
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baseball's been around since the 1800's and MLB managers are a hell of a lot smarter and more knowledgeable about the game than you, if bunting didn't work it would've died out a long time ago
Did you miss the part where MLB managers have stopped bunting in most situations because they have figured out the saber metrics on it?

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Leave it to a rantard to think he knows more than Bobby Valentine and Joe Torre, I'm sure those guys have looked at a stat or two in their day too, dumbass. I'll trust their interpretation over yours
You are the gift that keeps on giving
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:53 pm to
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if bunting didn't work it would've died out a long time ago

It is dying out
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:54 pm to
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It is dying out
Shhh, I want to see him rant and call me a dumbass again. Dont take my fun away
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62426 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:57 pm to
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Leave it to a rantard to think he knows more than Bobby Valentine


I'd like to test wits with Bobby Valentine. His record doesn't impress me.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:01 pm to
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I love how these morons that know nothing about baseball start these threads with their own interpretation of bullshite statistics and act like anyone that disagrees is stupid.


You feel better now??

I don't like giving up 33% of my outs in a inning on a play that is ripe with chances for failure for any number of reasons, but that's just me. I know the bunt is used with success on occasion. I will ride with this staffs call due to their knowing the players the best and their elite success.



Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 4/25/15 at 6:28 am to
You said the opposite . I am not going to argue this anymore. If you execute you score , if you don't , you don't. It's commone sense. I am not a CPM fan, I am speaking purely off of execution. Bunts do work.
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