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re: For the "clock it"s- To whom was Miles saying this?

Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:13 am to
Posted by Hootie
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:13 am to
It doesn't matter what happened because the bigger mistake was, the one we had more control over was the delayed TO. To not know the clock was still moving is extreme, gross negligence.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:31 am to
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If you are so sure Miles was yelling clock it, to whom was he yelling this? And present some evidence to show whom it was. Also add why he yelling it to this person(s) and make some sense in your rationale.

It certainly looks like "clock it" to me. But I accept Miles word that wasn't what he was trying to do.

That said, maybe you can give me some reassurance. Meet your own challenge. If it was "he's down" or something along those lines, "to whom was he yelliing this. And present some evidence to show whom it was. Also add why he yelling (sic) it to this person(s) and make some sense in your rationale."
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:39 am to
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My question is what the hell does it matter (the details)?

It was a frickup of epic proportions on the coaching staff for whatever Miles was yelling.


we know he screwed up; that is a given.

At the time, he may not have known that the grad assistant called for the spike. He should have though. Point is he did not call for it as 99% of the posters said he did all night after the game and he likely did not know who did at the time
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:40 am to
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Meet your own challenge. If it was "he's down" or something along those lines, "to whom was he yelliing this. And present some evidence to show whom it was.


to the refs. He said it b/c he saw the UM player hold up the ball as if he had recovered a fumble. Evidence is the video which shows that and the fact that JJ was at mid-field.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:41 am to
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It doesn't matter what happened because the bigger mistake was, the one we had more control over was the delayed TO. To not know the clock was still moving is extreme, gross negligence.


without a doubt and I think all agree on that.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:42 am to
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we know he screwed up; that is a given

Ok, so /thread.

The other shite and the "I told you so" is trivial and childish. Does it make you feel good to win an internet argument? I mean really...

I'll buy you a freaking trophy if you want but that doesn't take away the feeling that the LSU fanbase has towards the entire coaching staff right now.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:44 am to
ALl I am doing is trying to win over the naysayers to the truth. I said I told you so long ago after being drawn and quartered and called everyname in the book, including a "homer" (hahaha) saturday night, along with RobbRobb
This post was edited on 11/24/09 at 6:45 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:49 am to
I'm not sure if you know this or not, but being on robbboobs side is probably not going to win you any cool points, no matter what the argument is.

His whole premise of that thread was to slight Jefferson and make it seem like the loss was his fault.

You see he lives in his own little world where Jarrett lee is the best qb on the team, and rainbows, butterflies and unicorns are everywhere.

Any chance he gets to try and slight Jefferson he will. His act is old and worn out.

You have to read between the lines in every thread he posts.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
37859 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 6:55 am to
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I'm not sure if you know this or not, but being on robbboobs side is probably not going to win you any cool points, no matter what the argument is.


despite those opinions, the thread was titled Miles did not call for the spike--Video evidence.
Posted by tigers4eva
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
156 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:00 am to
"what was Byrd doing at the game??"

He was calling for a pass to the endzone with 1 second left.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:01 am to
Like I said, you have to read between the lines.

His act Is tired.

And video evidence? You mean when I see a coach using a throwing motion towards the ground, I'm supposed to believe he's not saying clock it?

Keep in mind this is the same motion that all other coaches use to tell their players to spike the ball.

That would be like you choking, and I run over to you and ask if your neck was cold



I'm pretty sure everyone knows what the choking symbol is.

Well miles does now I'm sure.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
37859 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:03 am to
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And video evidence? You mean when I see a coach using a throwing motion towards the ground, I'm supposed to believe he's not saying clock it?


The entire vid, when he went balistic after UM player came up with the ball and made the down motion, while JJ was at mid-field.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:06 am to
Maybe he's talking to lafell?

one thing I could say in flynns defense, if he had been the qb, he would have pretended to be hurt.

THAT would have been a awesome play to stop the clock.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3080 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:10 am to
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LSUTANGERINE
i've posted this in other threads but, even if Miles was signaling "he was down" there's still a couple issues with that:

1)If in fact the official would have ruled that Ole Miss had gotten the ball, the clock would have had stopped for the change of possession and he would have had PLENTY of time to challenge the call at that point. His first concern should have been getting the FG team on the field. But then again this is the same coach that tried to call a time out after an interception to stop the clock...

2) What do you think this "he was down" motion looked like to JJ running to the line of scrimmage with 1 second to go on the clock?

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:14 am to
Anyone have a video or picture of miles calling for a spike or "he's down" from another game so we can compare?

That should end this thread.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3080 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:18 am to
quote:

TheDoc
on of my favorite image from all the videos i've seen of this is him turning to the cop and asking "where's my time out?".... just kinda sums it all up..
Posted by BTigerFan
Zephyr Cove, NV
Member since Dec 2004
458 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:19 am to
The FACT of the matter is no one but Les Miles knows what he was doing.

I have no idea since I wasn't on the sidelines, but I can only assume one of you were there because you are stating things as fact.

If you look at the video, he still has the headsets on. He originally claimed he did not know who called the spike - now it is alleged that someone from the booth called it. I would assume if the booth called it, it would have come over the headsets.

Whether he called it or not, it does not appear he was in control of what was going on - the team was not prepared for all potential outcomes of the previous play.

As to the previous time-out, if you have played football you would know a player NEVER calls time-out without the approval of the coaching staff - even in the pros. Jefferson should have been told prior to the pass to Ridley to immediately call time-out. I have not heard one comment from anyone that is what Jefferson was told.

You can paint this anyway you want, but this was a major failure in strategy.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 7:54 am to
"where's my time out?"

=

"where's my wife?"
Posted by NOLAtoChiTwn
Michigan
Member since Nov 2008
363 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 8:06 am to
Maybe if he's ever in that situation again he'll dropped to one knee while making the jesture.But his explanation does smooth things out a bit.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/24/09 at 8:17 am to
Why don't you ask Miles who he was talking to?

The one thing that we know is that he said it and made the corresponding arm motion. The Cox replay removed all doubt about that.

Trying to divine his rationale for a completely irrational action is a waste of time. You are not looking for the truth. You are trying to defend the indefensible.



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