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For everyone that thinks we will go 7-5 or worse, what is your reasoning?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:32 pm
For those that think better what is your reasoning?
I am curious because I think that we have a roster, barring significant injury, that anyone outside of Bama, Georgia, and maybe Texas A&M would be pretty satisfied with. I also believe that we have at least a top five staff. That should warrant at least 8-4, no? I understand the new coaching staff, expectations, etc. We realistically were a few plays away from 8-4 instead of 6-6 last year (Aubie, Ark, and Bama). Surely we could win two more games with this staff and roster?
I am curious because I think that we have a roster, barring significant injury, that anyone outside of Bama, Georgia, and maybe Texas A&M would be pretty satisfied with. I also believe that we have at least a top five staff. That should warrant at least 8-4, no? I understand the new coaching staff, expectations, etc. We realistically were a few plays away from 8-4 instead of 6-6 last year (Aubie, Ark, and Bama). Surely we could win two more games with this staff and roster?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:35 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I say we go 9-3, but we can’t afford major injuries. Our starting lineup is elite, but no depth behind them
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:36 pm to talmaniandevil_25
8-4
We don’t have the depth in the secondary, specifically at CB, to do much better
I think we go:
4-0 in September
2-2 in October
2-2 in November
We don’t have the depth in the secondary, specifically at CB, to do much better
I think we go:
4-0 in September
2-2 in October
2-2 in November
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:36 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
That is similar to my thinking. We certainly have a lack of depth in some key positions, but D line and WR should make us at least competitive in most games.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:39 pm to ipodking
I do think we have more depth than last year. Don't forget about Welch and Allen in the incoming class. Welch especially has the ability to be a major contributor this season.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:40 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I think we got 9-3 or better
BUT, we do have an entirely new coaching staff, it doesn’t just automatically click. Plus we play in the SEC west, every game is a tough opponent
BUT, we do have an entirely new coaching staff, it doesn’t just automatically click. Plus we play in the SEC west, every game is a tough opponent
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:40 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I think we do 8-4 or 9-3+, but the 7-5 people realize we will be underdogs vs Bama, at A&M and at or near pick- at UF at Auburn and home Ole Piss, so a loss to FSU (-3.5) or Miss state or Arkansas may mean 7-5 or worse
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:43 pm to secfballfan
quote:and Tennessee
I think we do 8-4 or 9-3+, but the 7-5 people realize we will be underdogs vs Bama, at A&M and at or near pick- at UF at Auburn and home Ole Piss, so a loss to FSU (-3.5) or Miss state or Arkansas may mean 7-5 or worse
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:43 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Team had to do a major rebuild Lacks depth in areas. 8 wins would be amazing
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:48 pm to talmaniandevil_25
The back end of our schedule is brutal and to win the second half of the season typically you need good depth. The first 22 are solid. It's the depth that is questionable especially on the OL and CB and with a weak TE group Denbrock has to scheme out of not having a solid TE group. If the OL and CB position groups can stay healthy I could see 9 regular season wins (or more). However with normal attrition due to injury 7-5 seems like a reasonable floor.
Upside (9-3):
FSU - W
Southern - W
Mississippi State - W
New Mexico State - W
Auburn - W
Tennessee - W
Florida - W
Ole Miss - L
Alabama - L
Arkansas - W
UAB - W
aTm - L
Downside (7-5):
FSU - W
Southern - W
Mississippi State - L
New Mexico State - W
Auburn - W
Tennessee - L
Florida - W
Ole Miss - L
Alabama - L
Arkansas - W
UAB - W
aTm - L
Upside (9-3):
FSU - W
Southern - W
Mississippi State - W
New Mexico State - W
Auburn - W
Tennessee - W
Florida - W
Ole Miss - L
Alabama - L
Arkansas - W
UAB - W
aTm - L
Downside (7-5):
FSU - W
Southern - W
Mississippi State - L
New Mexico State - W
Auburn - W
Tennessee - L
Florida - W
Ole Miss - L
Alabama - L
Arkansas - W
UAB - W
aTm - L
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:48 pm to crewdepoo
I think we win 8-9 games. I predict we win a game we are expected to lose (Lord, let it be Alabama) and lose a game we are expected to win (Lord, let it not be Florida State)
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:51 pm to GumboPot
More worried about Ms State than Ole Miss. I think Aubie and Florida will be train wrecks, and I think Arkansas is gonna have a rude awakening when they realize they have no one to throw to.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:51 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I believe we lose to bama, @arky, @A&M. I believe Tenn/ole miss/@Florida are toss ups.
Tenn and Ole miss could outscore us in a shootout if we don’t gel quickly in the secondary. And @florida is a road game against a rival who also has a lot of talent but questions as well.
5 losses there is absolutely conceivable. I think 8-4.
Tenn and Ole miss could outscore us in a shootout if we don’t gel quickly in the secondary. And @florida is a road game against a rival who also has a lot of talent but questions as well.
5 losses there is absolutely conceivable. I think 8-4.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:52 pm to Mats86
See I just don't think Arky will be as good as last year. They lost almost every defensive starter except two, and their best player.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:52 pm to talmaniandevil_25
I think the only way we go 7-5 or worse is if we drop the 1st to Florida State.
couple reasons why that won't happen: I don't think BK loses his first game as LSU HC. I don't think we lose 5 out of 8 SEC games.
couple reasons why that won't happen: I don't think BK loses his first game as LSU HC. I don't think we lose 5 out of 8 SEC games.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:53 pm to talmaniandevil_25
We need a separate board just for negatigers
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:57 pm to talmaniandevil_25
For the record, I think LSU will at least go 8-4. However, I could make an argument for 7-5.
1. Whether we want to accept it or not, LSU has been a .500 program (below .500 in SEC play). Now, there are probably a multitude of reasons for that, and why they should not apply to this season. Still, the record is what it is.
2. LSU has an (almost) completely new staff. Kelly has been a terrific coach in his career. No one will dispute that. But we've never seen him coach a full season in the SEC and it may take some time for even the most experienced HC to adjust. Given that the margin for error in the SEC is often thin, the difference between an 9-3 season an 7-5 season could come down to only a few plays.
3. The SEC, particularly the SEC West is tough. And even years haven't always been the best for LSU, regardless of coach (compare with LSU's best seasons, most of which were odd years - 01, 03, 05, 07, 11, 19). Since 2012 that has usually been the result of LSU having to play AT Auburn, Florida, A&M and Arkansas in even years along with the fact LSU can't seem to beat Alabama at home. Now, there is no reason LSU can't win some or all of those road games this year. But those places can be difficult places to play. Couple that with the fact LSU is getting the likely 2nd best team in the East, Tennessee, on the schedule and it creates enough of a chance that things can go just wrong enough to end up with 5 losses.
4. FSU in the opener. No, this isn't the FSU of the 90's or even the 2000's. This is a shell of that program. But in game one (for LSU) of season one for Brian Kelly, FSU still has enough talent to potentially pull out a win in a game where LSU has first game mistakes that are not uncommon for any team. Even last season an eventual 11-1 Notre Dame team had to gut out an OT win over a FSU team that would go 5-7. I'll pick LSU to win. But sitting here in July it's hard to say that is a definite victory (I remember such comments last season before UCLA)
Again, I think LSU beats FSU and goes at least 8-4. But I can see a world where LSU goes 7-5
1. Whether we want to accept it or not, LSU has been a .500 program (below .500 in SEC play). Now, there are probably a multitude of reasons for that, and why they should not apply to this season. Still, the record is what it is.
2. LSU has an (almost) completely new staff. Kelly has been a terrific coach in his career. No one will dispute that. But we've never seen him coach a full season in the SEC and it may take some time for even the most experienced HC to adjust. Given that the margin for error in the SEC is often thin, the difference between an 9-3 season an 7-5 season could come down to only a few plays.
3. The SEC, particularly the SEC West is tough. And even years haven't always been the best for LSU, regardless of coach (compare with LSU's best seasons, most of which were odd years - 01, 03, 05, 07, 11, 19). Since 2012 that has usually been the result of LSU having to play AT Auburn, Florida, A&M and Arkansas in even years along with the fact LSU can't seem to beat Alabama at home. Now, there is no reason LSU can't win some or all of those road games this year. But those places can be difficult places to play. Couple that with the fact LSU is getting the likely 2nd best team in the East, Tennessee, on the schedule and it creates enough of a chance that things can go just wrong enough to end up with 5 losses.
4. FSU in the opener. No, this isn't the FSU of the 90's or even the 2000's. This is a shell of that program. But in game one (for LSU) of season one for Brian Kelly, FSU still has enough talent to potentially pull out a win in a game where LSU has first game mistakes that are not uncommon for any team. Even last season an eventual 11-1 Notre Dame team had to gut out an OT win over a FSU team that would go 5-7. I'll pick LSU to win. But sitting here in July it's hard to say that is a definite victory (I remember such comments last season before UCLA)
Again, I think LSU beats FSU and goes at least 8-4. But I can see a world where LSU goes 7-5
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 4:58 pm to talmaniandevil_25
quote:
More worried about Ms State than Ole Miss.
Me too. Mississippi State return 17 starters from last year.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:02 pm to GumboPot
Oftentimes, returning players from a 7-5 team doesn't mean much, but given it's a Leach system, I think we'll see good improvement from last year and would have a 50% chance of winning that game on a neutral field. That said, we catch y'all fresh after a trip to Tucson, which does not bode well for a road game in TS, especially with y'all being undefeated under a new coach. TS will be rocking week 4.
This post was edited on 7/12/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:05 pm to talmaniandevil_25
People could say the same about us. They used the portal just like we did. And they have continuity of system with their offense. Plus its in Fayetteville
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