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re: For everyone blaming CPM for pulling Bouman Sunday, please read this
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:22 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:22 am to PurpleAndGold86
bouman shouldn't have been pulled based upon previous outings. he was doing well. sometimes pitchers in the post season surprise people and go above and beyond what they are thought to be capable of (bouman)
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:22 am to mylsuhat
I'm blaming those gold jerseys.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 7:23 am
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:23 am to PurpleAndGold86
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This is where I trust the decision of the coaching staff that spends months upon months of their time working through fall practices and bullpens with the kid over a bunch of idiots on a message board.
If this is the case, why include the stats at all? If you trust the staff and their tireless efforts, why do you even need the incomplete data? If he'd only thrown 4 innings the last three outings but the staff decided to stretch him to 6, you'd still support them, so spare us the false trump card.
Everyone knows LSU fans overreact to losses. That can be annoying if you frequent the rant, but it's the way it is. Is CPM a better manager than everyone here? Does he know his players better than all of us? Of course. We just happened to have passionate fans who got excited about the hot streak and were ready to bring home another title. Disappointing loss, but there's always next year (just ask Cub fans)
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:24 am to monsterballads
How do we know what Bouman is capable of if he is never allowed to go past 6 innings or about 22 batters?
I mean shite he could have had a complete game shutout for all we know.
I mean shite he could have had a complete game shutout for all we know.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:25 am to monsterballads
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bouman shouldn't have been pulled based upon previous outings. he was doing well. sometimes pitchers in the post season surprise people and go above and beyond what they are thought to be capable of (bouman)
That is EXACTLY why the coaches pulled him. They made the decision that they thought gave the team the best chance to win. That was not allowing Bouman to go through their lineup for the third time. It isn't that hard to understand.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:27 am to mylsuhat
Bouman had everything working and a low pitch count. You ride that horse until he gets tired.....CPM made a shitty decision and that is part of coaching...... 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:28 am to rlanders23
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If this is the case, why include the stats at all? If you trust the staff and their tireless efforts, why do you even need the incomplete data? If he'd only thrown 4 innings the last three outings but the staff decided to stretch him to 6, you'd still support them, so spare us the false trump card.
I didn't include any stats, so I don't know what the hell you are talking about with your stats and "incomplete data" comment. The only statistic that is relevant to my point is the number of batters the kid faced. If they don't want him facing a lineup three times, I trust that in their best estimation the kid can't get face a lineup three times because his fastball is topping out at about 85 and he doesn't get any swings and misses. That is a dangerous combo on the 3rd and 4th time through a decent lineup.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:30 am to More beer please
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How do we know what Bouman is capable of if he is never allowed to go past 6 innings or about 22 batters?
You don't need to know what Bouman is capable of. The coaching staff does. The time to start tinkering with someone and seeing if they can stretch their limits is NOT the potential regional clinching game with a 1-0 lead. If they had scored the runs before he came out and it was 4-0? Sure, that's a gigantic difference.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:30 am to PurpleAndGold86
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They made the decision that they thought gave the team the best chance to win
By insertion Mccune in over fury?
Sorry, not buying that.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:31 am to mylsuhat
Look at the pitch count brah
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:33 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The coaching staff does.
All were saying is maybe let him show ANY sign of getting tired or making bad pitches before pulling him.
Paul has had a history of leaving pitchers in too long but this decision to pull him when there was no sign of trouble was a head scratcher. 6 innings of shut out 2 hit ball...
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:33 am to monsterballads
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By insertion Mccune in over fury?
McCune got through the 7th without an issue.
We then padded our lead in the bottom of the 7th.
Did they leave McCune in too long? That can most certainly be debated. But taking out Bouman is not what cost this team a super regional birth.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:34 am to mylsuhat
Statistics are for losers, CPM had a hot pitcher in a must win game and he pulled him....you can say all you want about the bullpen being be able to get 9 outs... he had a 2 hit shutout, 12,000 fans screaming, Sunday night in Alex Box, Super Regional on the line...give him a chance to finish it out...he deserved it!!!!!!!!! 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:35 am to monsterballads
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All were saying is maybe let him show ANY sign of getting tired or making bad pitches before pulling him.
I get it. What I am saying is that if you have a game plan in mind and you don't want the kid to face a lineup for the third time over based on everything you have seen from him stuff wise and velocity wise for the last 6 months, you don't abandon that when you have 1-0 lead in the potential regional clinching game.
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Paul has had a history of leaving pitchers in too long
Right and so if Bouman had gone out in the 7th inning and walked the leadoff hitter and then given up the game tying double this board would be outraged that they left him in longer than his previous starts. That's what makes me laugh at this board.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:38 am to PurpleAndGold86
The only game plan u ever stick to in baseball is max pitch count. No way his was 60 or whatever he threw. Baseball game planning changes almost each pitch.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:39 am to PurpleAndGold86
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They made the decision that they thought gave the team the best chance to win.
Lulz
No they didnt, PM over thought the situation and he knew he did right about the time that McCune loaded them up when he was doubled over in the dugout.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:41 am to PurpleAndGold86
Huge difference in pulling a guy with 60 pitches and 2 hits then 4-5 hits and 90 pitches.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:41 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Right and so if Bouman had gone out in the 7th inning and walked the leadoff hitter and then given up the game tying double
Heres a thought, get someone warming in the pen to start the inning and allow the guy who has pitched 6 innings of two hit, 0 run baseball to at least try to get you through the 7th. And if he walks the lead off man...you have someone warm.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:41 am to OutofTownAlumni
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Huge difference in pulling a guy with 60 pitches and 2 hits then 4-5 hits and 90 pitches.
Not sure how this comment is really relevant.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:42 am to lsuhunt555
quote:<<<< THIS
I dont need to read anything. To yank a guy who had 62 pitches and had given up two hits with out even letting him see the mound in the 7th is dumb.
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