re: For everyone blaming CPM for pulling Bouman Sunday, please read this

Im not sure he panicked quick enough with McCune Last night might have been just as bad as leaving McCune in after the hit and interference call.

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I'm still not sure where you are digging this out of. PM did not panic when he pulled Bouman out of the game. He knew what he wanted from Bouman, got it, and made the decision to pull him out. He panicked in the later stages of the game as he realized McCune was blowing the game.

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If you don't think his a-hole was water tight when he was making the decision to put in McCune you're crazy. Any time a coach pulls a guys that cruising like that, no matter what their gameplan was, they are not making that decision lightly. I guarantee you the thought about leaving bouman in was heavily discussed, but in the end I think he panicked about leaving in his starter too long and made a poor decision because of it.

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Jesus, watching Domangue pitch was so incredibly painful it's ridiculous. I really don't understand what he was doing in the game.

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This we agree on 100%. I cannot fathom what made them think this was the right decision at that point in the game.

OK, I fully understand that the 1 run game makes it a bit dicey, but facing the top of a lineup for the 3rd time was certainly not out of the ordinary.

To not give him a chance at even allowing a base runner, however, flies in the face of an argument to bring in McCune instead.

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I guarantee you the thought about leaving bouman in was heavily discussed, but in the end I think he panicked about leaving in his starter too long and made a poor decision because of it.

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I can guarantee you it was heavily discussed and thought about as well. That doesn't mean he was panic striken. If they didn't have confidence in Bouman, they didn't have confidence in the kid. There's nothing else to it. You act like he took him out though and just sat there biting his nails saying OMG OMG OMG why did I do this?!?!

No, he didn't want Bouman in the game or else he would have left him in. It isn't like Bouman was hurt and had to come out of the game. It was (in his mind) a well thought out decision that they didn't want the kid going through the lineup again.

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Jesus, watching Domangue pitch was so incredibly painful it's ridiculous

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Yea, I don't get what the frick paul was thinking. I mean in that situation maybe throw Joe B. I know we were getting low on arms but you don't throw in your worst pitcher in a situation with the game on the line. I believe in getting out of that situation and then reconfiguring a game plan. I think paul tried to keep his plans for the game going along.

I could understand not letting Bouman go another batter if we were in a live ball era and the homer is a legit threat. However, in this dead ball era I think we could have let him face as many hitters until they got their next hit and then pulled him.

I also felt like we were much too fine last night with trying to hit small locations. Walking guys in a dead ball/bat era is going to lead to bad things.

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However, in this dead ball era I think we could have let him face as many hitters until they got their next hit and then pulled him.

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I don't disagree with this statement at all. There was a lot of contact against Bouman, but it was not hard squared up contact. At the time, I most certainly would not have had a problem with him starting the 7th inning. Now that I'm not raging mad anymore, I can look back at it and certainly see what he was trying to do, which was get him out of there with the lead and let a confident bullpen get the final nine outs.

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I also felt like we were much too fine last night with trying to hit small locations. Walking guys in a dead ball/bat era is going to lead to bad things.

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I agree. I cannot reiterate how terrible it was to watch last night. Starting with the first hitter of the game. 0-2 to the first hitter and then tried to finish him off up and in with a freshman kid that is amped up and overthrowing the baseball. Awful pitching with the exception of the couple innings from Bugg before he tired out and Fury.

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I still think CPM gets the blame and the advocate failed miserably in calling him out for it either. But when he makes a decent decision, he is the darling of the media. But fails to get any criticism when he screws up. Then he uses the lame cliches of, "well, that's baseball" to shrug off any responsibility in the loss!!!

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Mainieri is like the anti-miles. When miles makes a decision that doesn't come off perfectly he gets bashed for it, but when he make a brilliant move/decision he gets almost zero credit. They chalk it up to "that was obvious" or "his players are just better" more often than not.

On the flip side mainieri makes a bad decision and it just goes by the wayside most of the time, but when he makes a good decision he gets all the credit and they just gush over him.


ETA: I'm talking solely about the media here. Our fans so plenty bashing on both of them.

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ETA: I'm talking solely about the media here. Our fans so plenty bashing on both of them.

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