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re: Finebaum "Saban Built the Program LSU has Today"
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:44 pm to DelU249
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:44 pm to DelU249
quote:
True, but
1. I don't see how this matters or what this means, and
2. Les has done a better job and the fact that he didn't build it does not diminish the job he's done
And I was a miles doubter
i was going to put in my two cents but after reading this, there is no need. exactly what i think.
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:45 pm to Mulat
He didn't build the program, he made it better while he was there, and the program is even better now since he left. Thank you Saban, along with thanks to other great coaches at LSU.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:47 pm to JJ27
quote:
Saban absolutely built LSU's program to what it is today. Conversely, Miles built Oklahoma State to what it is today. Either way, Miles is pretty damn good.
both of these statements are ridiculous and wrong, not to mention intelectually lazy.
Saban and Miles have not coached at LSU and OSU since 2004, to give either credit for the current success at those schools is silly. Just look at Florida.
However, its worth noting that Gerry DiNardo took over a program that had 6 straight losing seasons and won bowl games in each of his first 3 seasons. He was terrible his last 2 years, but did not leave the cuppard bare and plans were underway to expand the stadium and facilities were upgraded on his watch.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:48 pm to Nativebullet
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:56 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:48 pm to LSUChicageaux
quote:
WE SHOULD PUT UP A STATUE
- It should glow.
- It should be firmly rooted because it represents a foundation. Maybe it's just a pulsing slab?
- We should also be able to purchase bricks or small plates to be bolted on to the statue.
- We should have a blood drive, not to raise money for the project, but to actually fill the casting mold with our blood to show how indebted we are to him.
- It should have a condom dispenser.
- It should be immediately named a historical landmark.
- He should be raising both legs to show that he died in battle. Might be hard to make a statue that way...maybe he's sitting in a wheelbarrow of cash or something?
- It should have a lookout tower and photo colonnade.
- Parts of it should be flavored.
- There should be refreshments nearby.
- We're going to need a lot of velvet rope. Those expanda-barriers look trashy and this is NOT trashy.
- We should start a living petition to make sure that he's never embroiled in a personal scandal, lest we suffer the embarrassment of having to destroy a monument to someone who is still living. It's the kind of risk worth taking, I think.
ETA: "died in battle" is rhetorical. It's a euphemism for "left Capital One Bowl in a different plane."
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
both of these statements are ridiculous and wrong, not to mention intelectually lazy.
I was being sarcastic. I was trying to convey that if Saban built LSU, Miles built OSU. Neither is true.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
He was terrible his last 2 years, but did not leave the cuppard bare and plans were underway to expand the stadium and facilities were upgraded on his watch.
H-Town, some days I think that only you, me and a few others even think about thinking about all of that. The Angry Little Man's PR machine has many brainwashed.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
I think that person is sayin Saban made LSU a powerhouse program, if you don't believe that you are in denial. Now coach Miles has done a wonderful job of keeping it going and probably has even surpassed the talent level Saban had it at by locking down all the best bluechip players in the state while recruiting out of the state in the surrounding areas.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:54 pm to LSUChicageaux
quote:
WE SHOULD PUT UP A STATUE
- It should glow.
- It should be firmly rooted because it represents a foundation. Maybe it's just a pulsing slab?
- We should also be able to purchase bricks or small plates to be bolted on to the statue.
- We should have a blood drive, not to raise money for the project, but to actually fill the casting mold with our blood to show how indebted we are to him.
- It should have a cond
Don't forget the two cameras they have for security focused on the statue and the security guards making rounds on it.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:55 pm to Mulat
Does that mean Miles gets the credit for the program Ok State has today?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 pm to JJ27
quote:
I was being sarcastic. I was trying to convey that if Saban built LSU, Miles built OSU. Neither is true.
my bad, must have the sarcasm filters on at work
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 pm to tubucoco
THE GUY USED TO BITCH REGULARLY ABOUT RUMORS.
Then when someone would say, "Uh, coach, you could quell those and just end the speculation. We wouldn't ask if you wouldn't pettifog."
Coach: "Let's move on."
PETTIFOG
Then when someone would say, "Uh, coach, you could quell those and just end the speculation. We wouldn't ask if you wouldn't pettifog."
Coach: "Let's move on."
PETTIFOG
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:58 pm to LSUChicageaux
This is some funny shite here!
WE SHOULD PUT UP A STATUE
- It should glow.
- It should be firmly rooted because it represents a foundation. Maybe it's just a pulsing slab?
- We should also be able to purchase bricks or small plates to be bolted on to the statue.
- We should have a blood drive, not to raise money for the project, but to actually fill the casting mold with our blood to show how indebted we are to him.
- It should have a condom dispenser.
- It should be immediately named a historical landmark.
- He should be raising both legs to show that he died in battle. Might be hard to make a statue that way...maybe he's sitting in a wheelbarrow of cash or something?
- It should have a lookout tower and photo colonnade.
- Parts of it should be flavored.
- There should be refreshments nearby.
- We're going to need a lot of velvet rope. Those expanda-barriers look trashy and this is NOT trashy.
- We should start a living petition to make sure that he's never embroiled in a personal scandal, lest we suffer the embarrassment of having to destroy a monument to someone who is still living. It's the kind of risk worth taking, I think.
ETA: "died in battle" is rhetorical. It's a euphemism for "left Capital One Bowl in a different plane."
WE SHOULD PUT UP A STATUE
- It should glow.
- It should be firmly rooted because it represents a foundation. Maybe it's just a pulsing slab?
- We should also be able to purchase bricks or small plates to be bolted on to the statue.
- We should have a blood drive, not to raise money for the project, but to actually fill the casting mold with our blood to show how indebted we are to him.
- It should have a condom dispenser.
- It should be immediately named a historical landmark.
- He should be raising both legs to show that he died in battle. Might be hard to make a statue that way...maybe he's sitting in a wheelbarrow of cash or something?
- It should have a lookout tower and photo colonnade.
- Parts of it should be flavored.
- There should be refreshments nearby.
- We're going to need a lot of velvet rope. Those expanda-barriers look trashy and this is NOT trashy.
- We should start a living petition to make sure that he's never embroiled in a personal scandal, lest we suffer the embarrassment of having to destroy a monument to someone who is still living. It's the kind of risk worth taking, I think.
ETA: "died in battle" is rhetorical. It's a euphemism for "left Capital One Bowl in a different plane."
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:59 pm to Mulat
quote:Or, making out near it. It exudes an animal quality about it - it sweats musk and makes grown men menstruate. Just like Mike's cage, dogs aren't allowed near it because they just airhump until they die.
Don't forget the two cameras they have for security focused on the statue and the security guards making rounds on it.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:59 pm to Breadstick Gun
quote:
He brought us back up. He's responsible for that. He has nothing to do with the way that Coach Miles has managed to sustain it. Lots of people have built a program. Few have sustained it.
Yeah. Really the only other coach to "follow a legend" and do as well as Miles is Urban Meyer
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:00 pm to DesertCajun
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This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 1:55 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:01 pm to Powerman
quote:Yeah, Ron Zook was pretty amazing at Florida.
Yeah. Really the only other coach to "follow a legend" and do as well as Miles is Urban Meyer
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:02 pm to DelU249
Les Miles is a great coach, but I give Nick credit where it is due. I think Nick is the "enabler" as far as LSU football goes, but having the ability to win championships and actually winning them is just as huge of a difference and that is where Les Miles deserves credit.
Nick Saban had to win games with inferior talent and pull major strings to get facilities built for LSU athletics. I do give him credit for that, but LSU was just as much of a blessing to him than he was to it.
Nick Saban had to win games with inferior talent and pull major strings to get facilities built for LSU athletics. I do give him credit for that, but LSU was just as much of a blessing to him than he was to it.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:04 pm to Mulat
I think Dinardo really started the revamping of the program by building a fence around La. recruiting wise. Saban could take some credit for 07 but not this year.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:04 pm to Mulat
He's been getting his arse kicked by the program he left years ago. Hmmm, not sure what his point is.
Butthurt.. 
Butthurt..
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