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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:29 am to
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:29 am to
He got a face for radio.
Posted by SportTiger1
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:29 am to
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But when Jarrett Stidham goes 16/28 with 1 TD, 2 INTs and a 50.1 QBR - at home - it's just because he had a bad game.


Well considering he threw for 3200yds and 66% comp last year, he's earned a little respect, dont you think?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:31 am to
I think he has show full of morons but he knows who to cater too. What he said there is probably right. Our offense is very questionable and our line is getting depleted. Not a good formula for success in the this league.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:32 am to
He’s here for 2 years how’s it a temporary fix?
Posted by BallChamp00
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:33 am to
Because Paul thinks every school has 3 year starting QBs
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:34 am to
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WTF are you talking about? Who brought up Eaux? 

I am pointing out that you 100% agree with Finebaum who said some pretty ridiculous crap. 

It's the "of course you do" and any time I don't 100% slob on Orgeron you seem to come in with these same comments. It wasn't ridiculous in the least.
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How does Finebum know how Slinger will do develop Burreaux, Brennan or the two highly rated QB recruits coming in? 

He doesn't. That's why he said temporary fix. The future wasn't even discussed. He's talking about right now. If LSU can't recruit and develop QBs, this will be a problem. They haven't had time to prove that yet. Grad transfers are temporary fixes for every program, it's not a knock on LSU or your precious O or Slinger.
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Did you happen to watch the Auburn game? Did you happen to catch the last LSU drive in Auburn? What did you see? Did you see the 4th and 7 pass completion to Sullivan for a 1st down. The 3rd and 7 pass completion to Anderson for a 1st down? 

As I've pointed out in this thread and a thousand times before, the second half against Auburn was incredible. The OL provided protection, the QB put the ball on the money, the receivers caught the ball in traffic and they moved the chains on 3rd and 4th down. Now contrast that to the rest of the season. They are going to have to play more consistently in the future like they did in that 2nd half to compete for the West and the SEC Championship.

So, in that regard, Finebaum was 100% accurate.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:34 am to
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He’s here for 2 years how’s it a temporary fix?



This is a good point. If Burrow is indeed here for 2 years, isn't that just like a player waiting in the wings for two years before playing his junior/senior year?

Would that situation be called a "temporary fix"?

It has worked out just like that. Brennan even said he's attached himself to Burrow to learn as much as he can.

Posted by BDJ
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:35 am to
If Burrow continues to play like he is, Finebaum is right. We aren’t going far at all.

Georgia will shite on us. Alabama is going to beat us by 2-3 TDs and that’s on the conservative side.

Burrow has to be better. Our O Line is abysmal. Our receivers drop ball after ball. And our defense is as pourous as pumice.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:35 am to
Temporary fix meaning he was identified and developed by another coaching staff. Doesn't mean this coaching staff can't or won't be able to do that. They just haven't really gotten the chance yet to prove it.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:36 am to
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He’s here for 2 years how’s it a temporary fix?


Because are we going to keep relying on grad transfers who've already been "developed" by another school? It's almost guaranteed, at this point, that we'll screw up any incoming QB recruit on principle alone.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:37 am to
So if those are our only 2 losses and we go to the Sugar bowl, is that not very far?
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:46 am to
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It's the "of course you do" and any time I don't 100% slob on Orgeron you seem to come in with these same comments


You obviously have me confused with another poster on this board. It's strange you would bring this up in a thread about Finebum and Burreaux.


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That's why he said temporary fix. The future wasn't even discussed
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If LSU can't recruit and develop QBs, this will be a problem


So the future wasn't discussed and you just made up the part about developing QB's in the FUTURE? WTF are you even trying to insinuate.

No mention of the future but if this doesn't happen in the future he is correct? WTF

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They haven't had time to prove that yet.


The only correct thing you have posted in this thread. But, yet you agree with Finebum that Burreaux is only a temporary fix?

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Grad transfers are temporary fixes for every program, it's not a knock on LSU or your precious O or Slinger.


High school recruits are a temporary fix for every college program - if they are good enough to play. This is not a knock on your precious Finebum.

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So, in that regard, Finebaum was 100% accurate.


And like I said, "of course you would think that Finebum is 100% correct". I mean he didn't even bring up the future but somehow brought up the future. How could the guy possibly be wrong? He is a miracle worker and his words know no bounds.

Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:49 am to
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It's almost guaranteed, at this point, that we'll screw up any incoming QB recruit on principle alone


What exactly is this guarantee. The fact that Cam Cameron is still the OC? The fact that Matt Canada is still the OC? Explain this almost certain guarantee please. I would really like to see this, thanks !!!
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:50 am to
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What exactly is this guarantee. The fact that Cam Cameron is still the OC? The fact that Matt Canada is still the OC? Explain this almost certain guarantee please. I would really like to see this, thanks !!!




Who did we bring in that can actually develop a QB? We couldn't do anything with the three we had so we went and got help.
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:50 am to
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So if those are our only 2 losses and we go to the Sugar bowl, is that not very far?


Do not question the GREAT FINEBUM you heathen.

Mr. Bum has spoken and we just have to deal with.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:51 am to
Did he say that Orgeron and Ensminger are incapable of recruiting and developing a QB? Yes or no?

The other stuff you posted is such jibberish I have no idea what you're even trying to say. You're all over the place.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:52 am to
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Because are we going to keep relying on grad transfers who've already been "developed" by another school?


The question is how is a QB for 2 years a temporary fix?

The most you’re gonna get out of a qb is 3 years

When he’s gone we have Brennan for 2 years. Is that also a temporary fix?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:55 am to
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Who did we bring in that can actually develop a QB?


Slinger has developed a few QB's in his career. Eric Zeier being the most well known. He also did a good job with the QB's at La Tech and at A&M.

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We couldn't do anything with the three we had so we went and got help.


Or maybe they saw an opportunity to get a QB they thought may be better than the QB's they had at the present time. You don't agree with going out and getting Burreaux? Or do you just think they should have been able to develop multiple QB's in a matter of a couple months?
Posted by Cs
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:57 am to
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But when Jarrett Stidham goes 16/28 with 1 TD, 2 INTs and a 50.1 QBR - at home - it's just because he had a bad game.


Stidham threw for 3,158 yards in 2017 and finished with a 66.5% completion percentage.

So yes, statistically, the LSU game a few weeks ago was an outlier.

And I hate Finebaum as much as anyone, but his assessment of LSU was completely accurate.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:59 am to
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What he said there is probably right

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Our offense is very questionable and our line is getting depleted.

But thats not what he said and the question wasnt about our offense or team as a whole. It was specifically about Burrow, who is playing smart football, not turning the ball over, and leading us to Ws, despite poor OLine and WR play. All I'm saying is they arent watching the games objectively if they think 49% is on Burrow and that completion percentage is the end-all, be-all stat as it pertains to our success. It's stupid.
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