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re: Finebaum on First Take
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:03 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:03 am to SammyTiger
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He means by temporary fix is that we haven’t been able to develop QBs and Burrow will be here 2 years and when he’s gone we’ll be back to our undeveloped QBs
Myles Brennan is waiting in the wings. I'm sure he'll be a capable replacement for Burrow.
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:04 am to Paddyshack
Those throws he made vs Auburn were absolutely incredible and if he can show some more consistency l like that, I think this team competes for the West and possibly the SEC Championship.
I was saying it all goes on the offense and that the 49% completion is a result of those things. IMO, LSU will not compete for the West if that continues.
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Agreed, which is why it's not fair to shape the question around Burrow completing 49%.
I was saying it all goes on the offense and that the 49% completion is a result of those things. IMO, LSU will not compete for the West if that continues.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:05 am to bencoleman
I think so too, Ben. But, until we get there it's speculation.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:05 am to Paddyshack
quote:Fair enough question and one on almost everyone's mind here, whether they admit it or not.
Stephen A asked him what was going on with LSU and how far could they go with a QB completing 49%?
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Paul's response was "not very far".
How can anyone disagree with that, but if those numbers move significantly positive, the question then goes away.
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And that poor QB play was Miles' undoing, to be determined for Orgeron.
Is this not true, at least to a large extent?
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called Burrow a "temporary fix"
Well, that is true for any college QB, is it not? So I'm guessing he is saying that LSU needs to develop a guy rather than relying on transfers every few years.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:06 am to Paddyshack
He may be right. And I watch first take proudly everyday.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:06 am to TigerLunatik
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I think so too, Ben. But, until we get there it's speculation
That's all any of this is. We do know, however, that Myles has a cannon for an arm so my money is on him to come in here and light it up.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:08 am to NFLSU
It is because he had a bad game
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:09 am to NFLSU
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Here are Stidham's 2017 stats vs LSU
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body of work
Do you understand what body of work means? I guess not.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:11 am to Goldrush25
To be fair most QBs only play 2 years
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:11 am to bencoleman
I think we’re all hoping for that.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:11 am to TigerLunatik
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I was saying it all goes on the offense and that the 49% completion is a result of those things.
Right, it all factors in, but the 49% is not reflective of the ineptitude at QB like we are used to having. We have deficiencies elsewhere on offense that will keep us from winning the West if they arent addressed.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:13 am to TheCaterpillar
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Do you understand what body of work means? I guess not.
Yes, I do.
Here are Stidham's stats vs UGA in the SECCG
16/32
145 yards
1 TD
35.4 QBR
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:14 am to Paddyshack
I'm pretty sure Paul posts over on the SECr as RainKing96.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:14 am to Goldrush25
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I mean he is. We have one more year of Burrow and then after that we're back at square one. At some point you have to develop your own QB.
Kelly Bryant, come on down.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:17 am to Paddyshack
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We have deficiencies elsewhere on offense that will keep us from winning the West if they arent addressed.
Yep. That's what I mean when I say that Paul was correct. "Very far" is obviously subjective. For a school like Rutgers, being ranked #5 at this time of the season is great and gets their coach a hefty raise. At LSU, a coach can still be deserving of being fired at the end of the same year.
What Orgeron has done so far this year has been done very, very well. It's a long season and some improvements need to be made to finish with a very, very good year.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:23 am to NFLSU
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Yes, I do.
Here are Stidham's stats vs UGA in the SECCG
16/32
145 yards
1 TD
35.4 QBR
Great, another single game. I'll play that game.
Stidham vs. UGA in regular season 2017:
16/23, 214 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
But if you want to look at his body of work as I keep referencing and you continue to misunderstand, meaning all of his games, and tell me he doesn't have less to prove than Joe Burrow, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Overall career, or body of work, at two programs:
Stidham: 384/576, 66.7%, 5,141 yards, 33 TDs, 10 INTs.
Burrow: 81/145, 55.9%, 1,018 yards, 5 TDs, 0 INTs.
In SEC:
Stidham: 309/467, 66.2%, 3,876 yards, 21 TDs, 8 INTs.
Burrow: 52/106, 49.1%, 731 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs.
I love Burrow and glad he's our QB. But he hasn't proven nearly as much as Stidham. Its not a knock really, he hasn't had the same opportunities to do so. You have to be a short-sighted child to not understand that.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:24 am to TigerLunatik
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Dumbass
What's wrong man? Having a bad day?
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You are so insistent on making everything about hating Orgeron and the team that you fail to let common sense enter the conversation.
WTF are you talking about? Who brought up Eaux?
I am pointing out that you 100% agree with Finebaum who said some pretty ridiculous crap.
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Every one that is recruited and developed by that team's current coaching staff. Congrats on going 0/3 on your reply.
Does a college team's offensive coordinator get more than a few months to develop QB's? How does Finebum know how Slinger will do develop Burreaux, Brennan or the two highly rated QB recruits coming in?
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Eta: I even included "from what we've seen so far" in my post to prevent I response like yours.
Means very little. Did you happen to watch the Auburn game? Did you happen to catch the last LSU drive in Auburn? What did you see? Did you see the 4th and 7 pass completion to Sullivan for a 1st down. The 3rd and 7 pass completion to Anderson for a 1st down?
Seems to me that when the game is on the line Jeaux Burreaux is MONEY.
But you keep believing everything Finebum tells you about LSU.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:27 am to geauxtigers33
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I mean how many teams out there have the same starting qb for longer than 2 years? Would that mean Brennan who will have at most 2 years of eligibility left a temporary fix too?
I think the point is that Burrow is a clear upgrade from what we had already, 49% or not.
Once he's gone we'll be back to the quality of QBs we had before his arrival if QB development doesn't improve.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:28 am to Paddyshack
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Also called Burrow a "temporary fix"
spot on, we still don't know what to do with QB's
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