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re: Film Study: LSU QB Harris could lead most explosive offense in SEC
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:11 am to lsuhunt555
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:11 am to lsuhunt555
It has the potential if we just have a legit signal caller
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:12 am to arcalades
quote:-- Arcalades
not in top 5, probably not in top 10. For qb, yeah, but not for athlete.
Huh? My quote directed it to the QB position, man. lol. Looking for something to complain about, huh? Why not put the full quote?
Harris may be the most electrifying athlete to come to Baton Rouge in quite some time — especially as it pertains to the QB position.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:15 am to SECisKing
We always have the talent and potential to be an explosive offense. It's all about execution for us, which we have not had since Mett.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:17 am to PortCityTiger24
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You can easily make the argument that we have the best offensive weapons in the SEC.
Port, people are going to overthink it. Harris' arm + the vertical attack + a running back who can hit home runs + a deep receiving corps full of athletes who can go get it = most explosive
It's simple. Not many teams can remotely claim that as they would be missing some of those elements. Auburn would be right there, too.
But you can't say Arkansas -- as it doesn't have receivers like that backs with that type of explosive speed and the QB doesn't have a big arm.
Georgia has the RB, but not the QB or receivers...Tennessee? Possibly but Jalen Hurd isn't that explosive...etc etc.
Don't overthink the room -- take into account the personnel that LSU has -- which I'm quite sure 100% of you are aware of as it's your team...
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:19 am to SECisKing
I'll be shocked if this isn't a 37+ point per game offense in 2015.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:20 am to SECisKing
In the Jennings article you barely mention Harris. Here, Jennings is mentioned every other paragragh.
None of your video analysis of the Spring game in the Jennings article points out any flaws. Here, you dedicate an entire section to what Harris did wrong on a play. Nothing about AJ missing a wide-open screen pass? Throwing into double coverage in the endzone?
You start your other article by pointing out how much you love Jennings, saw him play in high school, believe in him, gush gush gush. Here, you start your article with several paragraphs about Jennings.
We get it. You love Jennings. The tone of your articles are night and day.
I appreciate the effort, but you just convinced me that you dressed up this article to appear unbiased when you're really just a Jennings pumper. If you had at least pointed out plenty of the bad plays Jennings made in the Spring game ( and there were more than a few) then I might take this more seriously.
You showed Harris operating with the purple team, where he had absolutely no help from the offensive line. Bullsh*t.
What I got out of both articles:
"Anthony Jennings struggled last year but can still be a great quarterback. Brandon Harris is more talented, but I saw Jennings be a good QB in high school so I like him better. Nevermind the consistent poor play. In practice and back in high school he's proven leader."
Honest to God, really, NOTHING bad about Jennings in the Spring Game? Please tell me you're not this blind.
Downvote away but this comparison is a sh*tshow.
None of your video analysis of the Spring game in the Jennings article points out any flaws. Here, you dedicate an entire section to what Harris did wrong on a play. Nothing about AJ missing a wide-open screen pass? Throwing into double coverage in the endzone?
You start your other article by pointing out how much you love Jennings, saw him play in high school, believe in him, gush gush gush. Here, you start your article with several paragraphs about Jennings.
We get it. You love Jennings. The tone of your articles are night and day.
I appreciate the effort, but you just convinced me that you dressed up this article to appear unbiased when you're really just a Jennings pumper. If you had at least pointed out plenty of the bad plays Jennings made in the Spring game ( and there were more than a few) then I might take this more seriously.
You showed Harris operating with the purple team, where he had absolutely no help from the offensive line. Bullsh*t.
What I got out of both articles:
"Anthony Jennings struggled last year but can still be a great quarterback. Brandon Harris is more talented, but I saw Jennings be a good QB in high school so I like him better. Nevermind the consistent poor play. In practice and back in high school he's proven leader."
Honest to God, really, NOTHING bad about Jennings in the Spring Game? Please tell me you're not this blind.
Downvote away but this comparison is a sh*tshow.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:20 am to SECisKing
Thanks. Can't wait for the season to get here! 
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:23 am to Nix to Twillie
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Honest to God, really, NOTHING bad about Jennings in the Spring Game? Please tell me you're not this blind.
We saw more good than bad from both guys
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:24 am to trooploop
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I'll be shocked if this isn't a 37+ point per game offense in 2015.
Prepare to be shocked then.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:26 am to bmy
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We saw more good than bad from both guys
Absolutely.
What I'm saying is if you're going to point out the negatives in one player you have to do it with the other, especially when that other player has been more negative than positive in his play on the field for the past year.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:47 am to SECisKing
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take into account the personnel that LSU has
I take into account that every position aside from QB is elite and championship caliber, but I also take into account that our more experienced starting QB showed me absolutely NO signs of improvement in 2014. His progress looked like this: _______________________________ I'm not crazy in saying this is still a huge concern for me, and I'm really baffled as to why it isn't for you. I really want to know how you could possibly be concerned about Harris but completely confident in Jennings.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:51 am to Nix to Twillie
SMH...Did I not point out that Jennings locks in on receivers and doesn't understand when to actually bolt the pocket? But I highlighted how it looks like he has tried to improve on that.
Harris locked in on every play and bolted the pocket no matter which play I observed. I merely showed a play where he could've gotten the ball out quick as he wasn't under pressure and the receivers were open -- like I pointed out.
And here's a quote from the Jennings article:
That's not plain enough for you? You'd like me to say Harris scanned his progressions and stayed in the pocket? He didn't, but he doesn't have to in the type of offense I described in the article. I'm still waiting on Nick Marshall to go through a progression and he was highly effective.
Calm down, man. I like Jennings and told everyone I did, but I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
Never said I didn't like Harris -- so I'm not sure what you're implying...But o well, it's not my job to appease you.
Harris locked in on every play and bolted the pocket no matter which play I observed. I merely showed a play where he could've gotten the ball out quick as he wasn't under pressure and the receivers were open -- like I pointed out.
And here's a quote from the Jennings article:
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Jennings has a very live arm and can make all the throws, his problems centered around making the anticipatory throw, distinguishing defensive concepts, not knowing when to bolt the pocket and inconsistent mechanics.
That's not plain enough for you? You'd like me to say Harris scanned his progressions and stayed in the pocket? He didn't, but he doesn't have to in the type of offense I described in the article. I'm still waiting on Nick Marshall to go through a progression and he was highly effective.
Calm down, man. I like Jennings and told everyone I did, but I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
Never said I didn't like Harris -- so I'm not sure what you're implying...But o well, it's not my job to appease you.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:52 am to SECisKing
Good write up.. Many gave up on AJ a little too soon. He was a first year starter without a lot of exp at wr. Mett needed a year as the starter before he threw for 3k. I know Harris has more upside but I'm not sure if he's ready. AJ has proved tougher to overtake than most of us thought. If Harris outplays him he will start. Imo he needs another year.. We will see this summer if he is ready to take the reins. I believe both will play and Harris will see more reps as the season progresses. His jr year will be "his" year imo. If he is patient and doesn't let pride get in his way.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 10:54 am to SECisKing
I would have liked to have seen video examples of the positive and negatives of both players. Not just all positive for one, and mixed for the other. Can you honestly tell me Jennings didn't make any bad plays that concerned you in the Spring game?
And what offense does Les like to run? The former, right? Based on that, Jennings>Harris. Am I wrong?
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I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
And what offense does Les like to run? The former, right? Based on that, Jennings>Harris. Am I wrong?
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 am to Nix to Twillie
You're missing the whole point to that Harris sequence. It was pointing out how great his legs are that he can still get the yards without making the throws.
Bro, you're trying to get me to say Jennings was perfect when he wasn't. But his mistakes, in the spring game, weren't anything to phone home about. He was very good and showed improvement in the mechanical part of his game. There's no denying that. I can't say Harris made any improvements with his mechanics but he doesn't have to in that type of offense. He either went deep or went short...
Jennings has the mid-range throws, deep and short...It's a pick your poison-based argument. Harris can dominate by pushing the defense back by going vertical early and often and threatening them with his legs.
Jennings, while being a good deep-ball thrower, can work the mid-range, West Coast portion of the playbook and allow for yards after the catch and then hit deep balls on occasion to favorable coverage.
Not sure what the disconnect is with you. You like Harris and that's great. Aren't they both LSU QBs? I'm just a writer man, this is actually your team.
Never understood the whole let's disgrace one guy in favor of another, especially when it's not as clear as you'd like to think.
Bro, you're trying to get me to say Jennings was perfect when he wasn't. But his mistakes, in the spring game, weren't anything to phone home about. He was very good and showed improvement in the mechanical part of his game. There's no denying that. I can't say Harris made any improvements with his mechanics but he doesn't have to in that type of offense. He either went deep or went short...
Jennings has the mid-range throws, deep and short...It's a pick your poison-based argument. Harris can dominate by pushing the defense back by going vertical early and often and threatening them with his legs.
Jennings, while being a good deep-ball thrower, can work the mid-range, West Coast portion of the playbook and allow for yards after the catch and then hit deep balls on occasion to favorable coverage.
Not sure what the disconnect is with you. You like Harris and that's great. Aren't they both LSU QBs? I'm just a writer man, this is actually your team.
Never understood the whole let's disgrace one guy in favor of another, especially when it's not as clear as you'd like to think.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:05 am to Nix to Twillie
Whichever offense Les likes to run doesn't matter when they literally ran the offense I described in the spring game for Harris. They showed they can do both in the spring and have the personnel to make it work with either QB.
Whoever he picks I'm fine with as it's not my team. I'm paid to cover the entire conference so I don't have a dog in the fight. I really don't have a preference outside of seeing some great LSU football as I love the style of play.
I vote for whoever Les votes for. But I do like Jennings as a person and hopes he succeeds somehow.
Whoever he picks I'm fine with as it's not my team. I'm paid to cover the entire conference so I don't have a dog in the fight. I really don't have a preference outside of seeing some great LSU football as I love the style of play.
I vote for whoever Les votes for. But I do like Jennings as a person and hopes he succeeds somehow.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:06 am to bayoubengalfan4life
I can definitely dig that, Bayou Bengal...thanks for the read, too.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:07 am to Nix to Twillie
Both looked better but neither is there yet. AJ did improve some last year and so did Harris. I am from Nla and obviously was pumped about Harris coming to LSU. I am a little bias towards Harris but bottom line is he wasn't close to being ready last year and Imo if season started today AJ should start.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:09 am to Nix to Twillie
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In the Jennings article you barely mention Harris. Here, Jennings is mentioned every other paragragh.
That is exactly what I thought when reading it. I'm not trying to pile on, but it did feel like the writer was on the Jennings side of the debate.
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I like Jennings and told everyone I did, but I also said he was a better fit for a ball-control offense whereas Harris could spread you out and absolutely kill you off spread, vertical concepts.
We all know what type of offense lsu runs, so to me this sounds like you are making a backhanded compliment to harris. Just an opinion.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:09 am to bayoubengalfan4life
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Many gave up on AJ a little too soon. He was a first year starter without a lot of exp at wr. Mett needed a year as the starter before he threw for 3k. I know Harris has more upside but I'm not sure if he's ready. AJ has proved tougher to overtake than most of us thought. If Harris outplays him he will start. Imo he needs another year
In Mett's first year he played perhaps the best game a Tiger QB has played this decade against the nation's number 1 D. Did Jennings do anything remotely close in his first year?
So Harris needs another year...ok, even if Jennings struggles again his junior year you really think Harris, ready as he may be, will win the starting job over a senior with more experience (since apparently that's more important)?
I think Jennings is a hard worker and could very well be a decent QB by the time he graduates. I'll eat delicious crow about this later if I'm wrong, but Anthony Jennings is not going to snap his fingers and be a SEC-championship caliber QB based on absolutely nothing in previous years. I think if he starts, it means Harris just isn't very good, and we'll change the offense to look like the entire 4th quarter against Ole Miss.
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