re: Fehoko to NT..

Well you must know more about the defense than Aranda because he said this is the best front 7 he has had at LSU.

Some of you are the worst pessimists on the planet.

Can anyone name who Bama has at nose tackle replacing Payne? It's a dude smaller than Fehoko.

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So from this thread Alexander will never be able to give us a full sec season going all out all game?

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I would say no. His knee can’t take a full game. BUT if Shelvin continues to lose weight and get in better game shape he could potentially be a mainstay at NT. As of now though I would say you could see those two guys man the middle for half a game. The other half going to Fehoko, Logan, etc

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1. Didn’t Thomas redshirted last year. He’s. RS Freshmen

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He's listed as a soph on the roster

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It doesn’t matter if they are playing DE in a 3-4, DE and NT in. 2-4-5 or DT in a 4-3-4

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wut

in a 2-4 alignment Lawrence and Fehoko are your likely lineman.

in a 4-2-5 Lawrence and Fehoko are your DTs. Your DEs, if Aranda keep his ways, will be your pass rush LBs.

If we run a ton of peso and it’s essentially 2 DE’s than we are still looking at Lawrence and Fehoko with only 1 deep backups with any experience.


Dude, that is totally normal. How many guys do you think we need when the 2 above formations only feature two of our defensive lineman?

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Unless we play a lot of NT in that 4-3

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If we have 4 lineman in the game, there wont be a traditional NT in there.

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So how are we better off than last year?

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because Fehoko was tabbed as our best DL on the team last year, both by Jenkins and Aranda.

Rashard Lawrence played hurt all last year. He is healthy


There is an upgrade in both talent & numbers, the second part not even being debatable

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We were 2 deep on the DL last year. So apparently deeper than 2

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Most of the year, we weren't. Check the tape

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You think Alabama won’t think of running big power sets and make us play 3-4 base? So then we have 1 backup whose ever played a game?

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They will all have played in games by that point.

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That’s my point. Isn’t that the whole point of depth? When people get hurt not having some enormous drop off in play?

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Lawrence missed 3 games last year, same games Frank Herron was suspended for. We lost 2 of those games. Certainly unusual circumstances. It wasn't just injuries.

Yes, sometimes it comes to desperate measures. But you know what, Id rather have 12 scholarship lineman than 8 if this were to happen. If you 2 deep becomes injured, you are fricked, no matter what position.

A true freshmen playing a few snaps is certainly better than a tired Lacatoure having to play and never getting a rest, where it just piles on and gets worse throughout the game. That was the circumstance we were faced with last year.

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We have Better NT depth than DE depth

We don’t have DE depth.

If we are playing more DEs more often than we’re gonna need more than 1 backup DE.

If your base is Lawrence Fehoko Logan

Than your only backup who isn’t a freshmen or RE Freshmen is Neil

After everyone spent an off season trying to convince everyone you need 12 DL in a rotation to compete it’s kinda concerning to see us have like 3 full time DE thats aren’t freshmen.

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This was my initial point, Sammy is just laying it out better.


Earl, if you’re so convinced Aranda can just scheme around depth issues with a 2 man front, which I also mentioned in my original post as mitigating any possible issues we may have, why didn’t we just run that front last year against MSU when Farrel was ejected leaving us with 4 DL?


End is an issue with Fehoko moving inside. It just is.

Of our true freshmen, four are clear DTs, none of which were ranked in the top 20 at their position or top 250 overall.

I know we’re giving O credit for spotting DL talent and that’s fine, but minimizing Gilmore Lac and Herron because they weren’t drafted is kind of silly when these dudes will be huge surprises if they even contribute snaps this year, much less make the league.


Thomas was a complete non factor last year. Counting on him to step up and contribute what those guys did is a big leap of faith.


I like the starters, my only point was if you guys claim depth cost us games last year, it is certainly at least possible it could again this year.

After all the offseason talk about the DL being so much better that is just a little concerning.

Who are the 4 other guys?

Lawrence, Logan, Neil and who else?

You can argue Thomas isn’t a freshmen, but he qualifies as a RS Freshmen and at some point we’ll claim that. If we don’t it was a huge frick up not bringing him to Miss st last year.

I don't really care what Thomas is listed at. He has practiced with the team for 2 offseasons now. I think he is qualified enough to be a backup DE.

in a 3-4 you aren't looking for dynamic defensive ends. It would be nice if every one was JJ Watt, but you are looking for a certain body type to occupy space and play to your gaps, and Justin Thomas fits that mold. Im not worried about him as a backup player right now.