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Explain to me WTF "Not a Good Fit" means

Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:44 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:44 am
Tired of reading it. TJ failed here, period.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:50 am to
It means he did not fit good.
Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:52 am to
TCU boards keep saying that Trent wasn't a "good fit" at LSU and will be a "good fit" at TCU.

I think it means TCU has lower expectations than LSU. Trent will be a good fit at TCU because they are ok with mediocrity, at least for now.

I think otherwise, it is a bullshite concept. Coaching is the same everywhere you go. And LSU should be an easier place to succeed than TCU.
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 11:53 am
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:52 am to
quote:

It means he did not fit good.


Well
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:56 am to
There are plenty of coaches that can be successful at one school, and perhaps not at another. This can be due to geography, culture, personality, facilities, style of play, etc.

It's not a hard concept to understand. There are dozens of examples of this all over the country.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:57 am to
I think it makes perfect sense in football, but not so much in basketball.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:08 pm to
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And LSU should be an easier place to succeed than TCU.



maybe. maybe not.

consider this: for 2011-2012 there were no Louisiana high school players in the rivals top 100. There are lots of Texas schoolboy players who are top 100 every year. So... TCU might get a couple of good Christian boys who are also 4 star basketball players. They are out there to be gotten, anyway.

Trent has already learned to deal with recruiting for a private school with higher academic standards than TCU. His one great season at Stanford was 28 wins, and it was his last year there before he went to LSU. It was his 4th season, giving LSU the impression that once he got 'his guys' he could field a winning team.



Posted by F1V3LSU
Alex Padilla 2016
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:09 pm to
But doesn't the coach determine the style of play?

I can understand culture/personality because it probably deals more with expectations of a fan base.

Don't really see why geography matters, just an excuse for a coach to not do his best I guess, if he isn't happy where he is. Kinda weak excuse.

Certainly in this case, the facilities will make for a worse fit at TCU
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:23 pm to
Basketball recruiting is so national based, a really good recruiter should be able to pull to any school.

Trent just isn't a good recruiter, locally or nationally.

It won't change at TCU. Those "4 star Texas kids" that you say will wind up at TCU, should have wound up at LSU as well... but they didn't.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:28 pm to
It means Tj tried to win in an academic way at lsu. Truly recruit student athletes not one and done type players. This is tough to do in the sec and the south. That's tjs mo and it doesn't work at a school like lsu. That's it.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20417 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:33 pm to
I feel Trent is out of touch w today's youth he should have let Miles call some kids
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

It means Tj tried to win in an academic way at lsu.


I will always admire Trent for how he approached his job. With the history of dirt the LSU program has had, IMO, he cleaned up the image. Did that cost him recruits and more importantly, connections in state? Absolutely. The losses and roster holes fall on him. He did it his way, for better or worse.

When LSU decides to jump into the top of SEC in basketball budget(like expanding our staff), LSU will once again be a top school in the conference.
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

I will always admire Trent for how he approached his job. With the history of dirt the LSU program has had, IMO, he cleaned up the image. Did that cost him recruits and more importantly, connections in state? Absolutely. The losses and roster holes fall on him. He did it his way, for better or worse.


this...just about sums it up. you nailed it.

Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

maybe. maybe not.



Otto, it's absolutely easier at LSU.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43125 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:16 pm to
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Truly recruit student athletes not one and done type players. This is tough to do in the sec and the south
Are you serious with this bullshite? Do you really think any one-n-dones would come to LSU and play for TJ?
Posted by Ziggy52
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
198 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:21 pm to
1-west coast guy
2-could not recruit louisiana
3-did not blend with the culture or food
4-too political
5-no local assistants
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43125 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

1-west coast guy
2-could not recruit louisiana
3-did not blend with the culture or food
4-too political
5-no local assistants


Makes sense I guess... especially 2 and 4.


PS - the "poor fit" part still bugging me. So are we saying TJ is a solid recruiter but he didnt click with LA recruits or southern recruits?
This post was edited on 4/8/12 at 1:24 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

3-did not blend with the culture or food 4-too political



What does food have anything to do with it? He doesnt like Cajun/Creole? WGAF?

I have never seen his political views. What are they and give me an example of how that hurt his time here.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33062 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:53 pm to
Not a good fit
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 1:59 pm to
Me too. "he's a good coach but not a good fit for LSU." I call bullshite. If he were a good coach he would fit.
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