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re: Everyone I talked still involved in the game, from officials to replay officials said TD
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:37 am to chaso
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:37 am to chaso
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I watched the same damn bullshite and even if they said "it moved" he still had possession with the movement! Re-read the rule about ball movement from the ground!
the rule does not mention possession in this context. It mentions control. Perhaps you should re-read it?
He very clearly loses control if you watch it from the front closeup angle in slomo.
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Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:37 am to chaso
Hence the point he refuses to acknowledge... The call on the field was a catch. There is no irrefutable evidence that a football move was NOT made, nor is there irrefutable evidence that he would have lost the ball on the ground. At least in the controversial 2010 Calvin Johnson call, he didn't come up with the ball.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:40 am to LSUminati
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Notwithstanding that odds are you are in fact, incorrect.
I don't understand this. Why is everyone else NOT employed as rules officials right, and the ones that ARE employed as rules officials wrong?
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Assuming for a second you are right, how much time have you spent on this topic, a topic in which 95% of people who do this professionally disagree with you, to prove that you are right?
Way too much, you've got me there. I am definitely having some fun with this.
I am not trying to prove I am right. I am right and simply stating the rule and facts.
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What would you call that? Egotistical? Narcissism? Asperger's?
Probably the first two. Why do you care? You realize you can just not respond and be confident in your opinion, correct?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:40 am to TDsngumbo
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The whole world said that was a TD.
There’s even consensus on the SEC Rant of all places
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:41 am to Fun Bunch
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I don't understand this. Why is everyone else NOT employed as rules officials right, and the ones that ARE employed as rules officials wrong?
IDK... Why are YOU not a rules official, since virtually all of the real ones are apparently wrong about this call?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:41 am to Vacherie Saint
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Hence the point he refuses to acknowledge... The call on the field was a catch...nor is there irrefutable evidence that he would have lost the ball on the ground
Its certainly a better argument than most of the ones being made. I think it is extremely clear (and so did the professionals paid to make this decision) but that part of the call is subjective.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:41 am to biglego
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There’s even consensus on the SEC Rant of all places
damn. case closed
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:41 am to Vacherie Saint
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IDK... Why are YOU not a rules official, since virtually all of the real ones are apparently wrong about this call?
Like who?
What current rules officials are saying it is wrong?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:42 am to Salmon
Ground causes the ball to move but his hands NEVER LOST CONTROL!
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
i'll bite. the ref who made the call on the field. And all of those guys Herbie referenced - which is the basis for the thread you are currently posing in.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
I'm not convinced he truly lost control when hitting the ground. The ball is allowed to jostle some as long as he still has control. I think to overturn it was definitely wrong in that aspect as I'm not sure there was indisputable evidence that happened.
Everything else though with everyone on here arguing about the letter of the rule are wrong, and you are right about needing to maintain control on a catch when falling to the ground.
Everything else though with everyone on here arguing about the letter of the rule are wrong, and you are right about needing to maintain control on a catch when falling to the ground.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:44 am to TutHillTiger
Not only did he take a bunch of steps and already establish a catch, he maintained control of it when he went to the ground, a bit of the football touched the grass which isn’t a deal breaker.
Welp I only read the first page, others said the same thing.
Welp I only read the first page, others said the same thing.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
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Why is everyone else NOT employed as rules officials right, and the ones that ARE employed as rules officials wrong
I guess you're going to argue that the intentional grounding that wasn't called wasn't really intentional grounding. Because the officials are never wrong.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:46 am to Vacherie Saint
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And all of those guys Herbie referenced - which is the basis for the thread you are currently posing in.
What guys? I was in a bar, I did not hear Herbie say a word.
Was he referring to FORMER rules officials?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:46 am to TheWalrus
The very presence of this level of debate, on several levels of interpretation (football move or not) signals it should have not been overturned. Nothing about this is irrefutable.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:47 am to TheWalrus
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Not only did he take a bunch of steps
This is not true. You are misremembering the play
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:48 am to liquid rabbit
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I guess you're going to argue that the intentional grounding that wasn't called wasn't really intentional grounding. Because the officials are never wrong.
Literally making part of my point for me, the official on the field got it wrong.
But that is not reviewable in the NCAA to my knowledge, if it had been, its extremely clear it would be Grounding.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:48 am to Fun Bunch
He talked about it again last night at the UNC/TCU game. He said that every official he has spoken to since the game says its a TD.
And I think its hilarious how you want to discount former officials who are now working as rules analysts for the networks. WTF is that about?
And I think its hilarious how you want to discount former officials who are now working as rules analysts for the networks. WTF is that about?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:49 am to bbap
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I'm not convinced he truly lost control when hitting the ground.
This is the only argument that is relevant, and some people can just agree to disagree on this one.
All of the other arguments are simply not correct.
It comes down to whether or not there is irrefutable video evidence that he lost control on the ground.
I think there is (as did the official), you guys think he did not (as did the TV analyst)
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:49 am to Fun Bunch
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I guess you're going to argue that the intentional grounding that wasn't called wasn't really intentional grounding. Because the officials are never wrong.
Literally making part of my point for me, the official on the field got it wrong.
OMG, your level of mental gymnastics is off the charts!
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