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re: Everyone I talked still involved in the game, from officials to replay officials said TD

Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:11 am to
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In this case it is clear that no football move was made and that he loses control.


Nonsense. There is a national outrage over the call. Don't make ridiculous statements.

quote:

Why do you give more weight to people that are no longer employed as rules officials vs the ones that actually are?


Than who? You?
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11988 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:11 am to
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Said something along the lines of the Clemson fans should STFU and be lucky the refs took 7 points from LSU after the got mad at a clear PI.


Same Clemson fans that were bitching about SEC refs before the game.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:13 am to
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The "Football Move" Explained
The term "football move" is often used when explaining the catch rule. It includes:

A Reach Towards: A player's act of extending the ball forward to gain additional yardage or a touchdown.

The Ability to Perform Such an Act: This might mean tucking the ball away, turning upfield, or taking an additional step.


LINK
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:16 am to
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might
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41950 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:17 am to
Two things for me

1. He made a football move and survive very ng ground was mute

2. If you disagree with one - he never lost control. It moved but he never lost control
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:17 am to
Your argument fails because here it is DIRECTLY From the NCAA:

quote:

Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc., and

Satisfies paragraphs b, c, and d below.


I'll give you one guess what B is
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:18 am to
Perhaps read right below your laughter and see how wrong you are.

AND

Satisfies B...

Ouchtown, population you
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
4028 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:19 am to
Dude, this rule isn't as complicated and nuanced as you seem to think. This is not brain surgery, rocket science, or molecular physics where your background provides authority on the issue. No one cares that you've read the rule 100 times, or that you might have officiating background. The fact that 95% of people who watch football and have read the rule disagree with you should tell you something. Give it a rest.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:20 am to
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The fact that 95% of people who watch football


Are wrong. They did not read or understand the rule

They WANT it to be something other than it is, and so do I.

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Give it a rest.



No. Blame the rule, not the messenger
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:23 am to
stop litigating this as if it wasn't ruled a catch on the field, and stop pretending it matters how long something takes to do. It doesnt. He secured the ball and advanced it over the plane. IDGAF if those actions took 1 millionth of a second.

Its fine to have your opinions on the matter, but gaslighting everyone about it, when most officiating experts and media analysts disagree with you is just silly.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:23 am to
He's fricking married to this take.


This is the hill he wants to die on.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:24 am to
quote:

He secured the ball and advanced it over the plane.



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and

Satisfies paragraphs b, c, and d below.

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds. If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:25 am to
Because I am right.

You make every single argument BUT the one in the rulebook.

Mine is based on the letter of the rule.

You're posting blogs for terms the NCAA doesn't even use anymore within the catch rule (ie Football Move).
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3207 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:29 am to
You couldn't see it thru your radio!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:31 am to
The ground cannot cause a fumble, especially out of bounds once a football move has been established post catch.

Are you arguing that it can?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127761 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:33 am to
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The ground cannot cause a fumble, especially out of bounds once a football move has been established post catch.

Are you arguing that it can?


What is the relevance? This true.

You will not get an argument from me about the incongruence of NCAA rules in several things.

It cannot cause a fumble. It can cause an incompletion.

quote:

If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds. If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46016 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:34 am to
are you high?

That does NOT APPLY ONCE A FOOTBALL MOVE IS ESTABLISHED.

That's what the entire world is arguing.
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3207 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:34 am to
Saw what clear as day? I watched the same damn bullshite and even if they said "it moved" he still had possession with the movement! Re-read the rule about ball movement from the ground!
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
4028 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 10:36 am to
Notwithstanding that odds are you are in fact, incorrect.

Assuming for a second you are right, how much time have you spent on this topic, a topic in which 95% of people who do this professionally disagree with you, to prove that you are right?

What would you call that? Egotistical? Narcissism? Asperger's?
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