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re: Everyone can get excited about Joe Burrow
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:20 am to pitchandcatch27
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:20 am to pitchandcatch27
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But, this is the SEC not the Big 10
Is that what 'Bama said the night before Ohio St bitch smacked them for the first playoff championship? Yes, generally, the SEC is top dog. No, it doesn't mean individual players in other conference aren't as good.
Based on all I've read and seen, Burrow is the real deal until he isn't. It's ridin' time, so stop being a sour puss and get on that Tiger train.
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 8:23 am
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:23 am to StTiger
Since 2000, the SEC has won 10 National Championships, by 4 different teams. Twice the championship game had 2 SEC teams playing each other.
To add, SEC has a considerable number of more players drafted.
Tell me again how the SEC dominance isn’t still alive and well?
To add, SEC has a considerable number of more players drafted.
Tell me again how the SEC dominance isn’t still alive and well?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:25 am to mhc4tigers
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The positive for us is the main stream OHIo StAte fan is not happy that Burrow left.
I think this is true, but also OSU fans should have expected the loser of the race was transferring. Burrow could leave without repercussions (like having to sit out), but I was extremely happy he left.
He has a great opportunity and he was not going to start for OSU. Additionally, Meyer has shown in the past that when he has 2 somewhat equal options, he can screw it up (see 2015 when OSU was clearly the most talented team in the country with Bosa/Elliott/Thomas etc.). It is kind of a win win for both teams as LSU gets a hopefully great QB for them, and OSU can continue to recruit the QB position with an open spot
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:31 am to StTiger
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2 of the last 5 national champs were sec and that was the same team
1 from Big 10
2 from ACC
SEC dominance is overblown
9 of the last 14 national champs were sec and 3 different teams
2017: 2 SEC teams reached national title via playoff, those two teams BOTH shared a common regular season loss against a third SEC team
Big 10 has some good football, he won’t see anything here he didn’t see at practice at OSU. But SEC dominance isn’t overblown, just used in the wrong context in the OP.
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 8:34 am
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:38 am to pitchandcatch27
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Faster and bigger players then the Big 10
At least get this part correct........THAN.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:39 am to pitchandcatch27
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But, this is the SEC not the Big 10 what ever the heck it is. Faster and bigger players then the Big 10. Our other 3 QB's have been with the team for couple years with the offense. Now with a new OC and scheme I do not care how good he is, as a player, if his teammates do not buy in and respect him and support and respond to him as a leader in less than 2 months he will find himself on the seat of his pants a lot. It is going to be interesting to watch what happens.
The down vote button only works once.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:41 am to pitchandcatch27
Please delete your account.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:10 am to pitchandcatch27
Teammate confidence in a QB is very important.
A lineman doesn't want to see a dear-in-headlights look in the huddle.
A DB wants to get you the ball back and say, it's all good we have ___________. We're going to win this now.
That being said, Burrow hasn't earned that yet. As of now, it's hype. I understand the hype; and the alternative would be a disaster.
And we've all witnessed the spiral downward of a QB that loses the confidence of his teammates. A QB that has earned it can make mistakes but the belief in him is never shaken (e.g. Brady, Brees). But a QB that hasn't, every mistake is magnified exponentially.
It's not hard to earn it, people know when you have "it". But Burrow still has to do it. Les should have done it, and Orgeron needs to do it: give the QB a series to toss it around every game, early. It sets the tone. The QB is the leader, whether you are scared of passing or not.
A lineman doesn't want to see a dear-in-headlights look in the huddle.
A DB wants to get you the ball back and say, it's all good we have ___________. We're going to win this now.
That being said, Burrow hasn't earned that yet. As of now, it's hype. I understand the hype; and the alternative would be a disaster.
And we've all witnessed the spiral downward of a QB that loses the confidence of his teammates. A QB that has earned it can make mistakes but the belief in him is never shaken (e.g. Brady, Brees). But a QB that hasn't, every mistake is magnified exponentially.
It's not hard to earn it, people know when you have "it". But Burrow still has to do it. Les should have done it, and Orgeron needs to do it: give the QB a series to toss it around every game, early. It sets the tone. The QB is the leader, whether you are scared of passing or not.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:12 am to pitchandcatch27
You joined on July 1st so you can post this stupid shite?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:14 am to pitchandcatch27
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Faster and bigger players then the Big 10
That’s not true at all. Ohio State is currently one of the top programs in the country. I’m sure he’ll do fine here.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:19 am to jptiger2009
In all fairness other than Ohio State which other Big 10 teams have played for and/or won a national title?
The same can be said for the ACC. Only FSU and Clemson have won an NC. That's 2. OSU has won 2 recently.
The SEC has won 10 since 2000 and by 4 differ
The same can be said for the ACC. Only FSU and Clemson have won an NC. That's 2. OSU has won 2 recently.
The SEC has won 10 since 2000 and by 4 differ
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:34 am to pitchandcatch27
You and what other douche upvoted this? Shut up hoe!
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:43 am to pitchandcatch27
Short memory? Wisconsin!
E and Joe Burrow could have been the difference.
Did Etling have more success at Purdue or LSU?
E and Joe Burrow could have been the difference.
Did Etling have more success at Purdue or LSU?
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:46 am to STRIPES
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n all fairness other than Ohio State which other Big 10 teams have played for and/or won a national title?
The same can be said for the ACC. Only FSU and Clemson have won an NC. That's 2. OSU has won 2 recently.
You can't only look at national title winners to me to determine if a conference has good players.
Last year the B1G won every bowl game except for Michigan pissing away a 2 possession lead to the cocks in the 4th quarter. That included Penn State beating a good Washington team, Wisconsin beating a good Miami team and OSU beating a good USC team.
The B1G is a good league. The SEC is the best league, but the top teams in the B1G are similar to the top teams in the SEC. The middle/bottom of the B1G isn't very good (new hires for some places may make the middle good again)
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:49 am to STRIPES
This isn't the early 2000s anymore
SEC is not what it was when LSU started the train in early 2000 and what followed... 7 straight years of sec NC from 2006? That quickly turned into the last 5 years with Alabama and second place finisher
In more recent examples, it's all bama with attempt by Auburn and Georgia
What about the other two teams of the 4 different teams to win since 2000? LSU and Florida. Neither are in title discussion
I say the SEC dominance is overblown because it's not the sec. It's bama
Without them, and only looking at the last five years, it's
2013 Auburn lost to fsu
Playoffs start
2014 Only bama - oregon, fsu, osu
2015 Only bama - Clemson, msu, ou
2016 only bama - Clemson, osu, Washington
And 2017 was the first with another team from the sec going for the NC. In no other playoff year (except Moo state in 2014) was there another sec school in the top 5 or 6 of the rankings for the week prior to the sec championship or the selection week
Not sec dominance.
SEC is not what it was when LSU started the train in early 2000 and what followed... 7 straight years of sec NC from 2006? That quickly turned into the last 5 years with Alabama and second place finisher
In more recent examples, it's all bama with attempt by Auburn and Georgia
What about the other two teams of the 4 different teams to win since 2000? LSU and Florida. Neither are in title discussion
I say the SEC dominance is overblown because it's not the sec. It's bama
Without them, and only looking at the last five years, it's
2013 Auburn lost to fsu
Playoffs start
2014 Only bama - oregon, fsu, osu
2015 Only bama - Clemson, msu, ou
2016 only bama - Clemson, osu, Washington
And 2017 was the first with another team from the sec going for the NC. In no other playoff year (except Moo state in 2014) was there another sec school in the top 5 or 6 of the rankings for the week prior to the sec championship or the selection week
Not sec dominance.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 10:36 am to pitchandcatch27
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Faster and bigger players then the Big 10.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 11:51 am to pitchandcatch27
So you are essentially saying that Burrow has taller, faster receivers, a bigger and more mobile O-line and more elite running backs to work with than he had previously? Sounds good to me.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 12:36 pm to pitchandcatch27
Hey, slap nuts have you been listening to Burrows team mates this spring and at the SEC conference. They all think he is the more mature, the better passer, scrambler, and the more experience QB out the four quarter backs. In addition all but a few that I saw interviewed thought he'd be the starter. You must be a democrat, not only repeat stupid shite you heard, but also get all upset and kill you're cat over it when you find out its not real and you can't actually change it.
Posted on 7/23/18 at 12:44 pm to Tiger Vision
Some of you have made really great points. Some of you have never played the game obviously. Others are just plain idiots. I'm an offensive receiver. If the players on the offensive side of the ball do not buy in to JB and would rather have JM hopefully the coaches recognize the team's response and play the QB that has earned the respect of his players. Right now JB has not earned the position. It's a 2 QB system right now. Special packages for JM and JB pro set with some spread formations. Is what I see.
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