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re: Etling is better than most think
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:10 am to A1tiger
Posted on 10/28/17 at 7:10 am to A1tiger
Danny only had 11 tds and 5 ints last year, and he is on pace for similar stats this year. That is nowhere near good enough. There are many guys with lesser "pass rating" that I believe are much better Qbs and are doing much more for their team as it relates to scoring.
*Please read previous page for stats that prove Passer Rating stats are pointless and misleading*
*Please read previous page for stats that prove Passer Rating stats are pointless and misleading*
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 7:20 am
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:20 am to calcotron
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Harris, but let's not confuse OK with really good. He's not really good.
I've never seen a post on the rant stating that Etling is really good. Just "better than most think" which most think he's garbage. I've seen garbage at QB the last few years. He is better than what we have had and that is the argument in this thread.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:22 am to Madking
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Seriously the anti Etling anti-new regime fans are the same as political media, everything they say is suspect and mostly not true.
Amen brother.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:38 am to SammyTiger
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He underthrows Chark pretty consistently. That’s why chark (who gets behind defenses regularly) has 0 receiving TDS.
True statement. If the defender isn't in DE's face, that ball would have only been under thrown by 3 to 5 yards and Chark gets tackled at the 1 yd line.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:42 am to Spankem
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Seriously the anti Etling anti-new regime fans are the same as political media, everything they say is suspect and mostly not true.
DE pumpers aren't selling anything worth buying. Everyone agrees he's a great kid, doing a decent job. To not see that LSU could be much better with probably 45 other QB starters and I bet at least 20 backups from D-1 schools is just being in denial. He's reached his ceiling, he reached it early last year. It's not that high. I'm glad he doesn't throw INTs. Super. I'd take 1 INT per game for 3 more decent looking drives per game.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:46 am to calcotron
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DE pumpers aren't selling anything worth buying
You have seen someone pumping DE as a good quarterback? I have to see a link to this!
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Everyone agrees he's a great kid, doing a decent job.
There are thousands of posts stating this so we agree on that.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:46 am to Spankem
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I'm curious...if Etling is severely limited...what were the two quarterbacks before him?
Answers: entirely inaccurate, consistently inconsistent, completely incapable!
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 8:50 am
Posted on 10/28/17 at 8:49 am to Spankem
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You have seen someone pumping DE as a good quarterback? I have to see a link to this!
I don't care enough to find links, but if you read around you'll find those guys talking about his QB rating and saying he's top third in the SEC. Plenty of people dote on him, usually O pumpers. Also, the thread title. Maybe read all the posts.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 12:58 pm to Lonnie4LSU
2015-With poor QB play & a horrible offensive scheme governed by a hard headed & soon to be fired head coach. Not statistics you want to be comparable to!
C’mon guys! This is LSU. We should be better on offense than this!
C’mon guys! This is LSU. We should be better on offense than this!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 1:06 pm to bdnc
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Etling is better than most people think
No, he's not.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 2:16 pm to Spankem
Don’t confuse “Etling is not as good as we need at QB” with any anti-Orgeron sentiment. I have been part of the former since game 3 but have never been part of the latter. Coach O might not have been my first choice but I am fully supportive of his program until & only if he proves that he can’t take us back to championships. I believe that there are many others who have similar views. #GeauxTigers
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:41 am to calcotron
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I don't care enough to find links, but if you read around you'll find those guys talking about his QB rating and saying he's top third in the SEC. Plenty of people dote on him, usually O pumpers. Also, the thread title. Maybe read all the posts.
Your reading comprehension is reprehensible. Pointing out facts that he isn't as bad as people make him out to be is no where near saying he is great or even a good quarterback. No one has equated him to a top tier quarterback such as Mett, Rohan or Jamarcus when they were at LSU.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:46 am to Spankem
Let it go!
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:15 am to LongTime Tiger
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if he proves that he can’t take us back to championships.
Let me ask, what have you seen that would lead you to believe LSU is headed anywhere close to a championship?
LSU is a 21 point dog to Alabama. Something they have NEVER been in recent years. That doesn't show to you the gap between LSU and Alabama to be getting wider and not closer? Also, we have been a power running team with ALL SEC type running backs for at lease four straight years. Where is our ALL SEC type RB for next season? What in the Mississippi State and Troy loss shows you that O is going to bring a championship to LSU anytime soon or ever?
None of that will ever stop me from cheering for LSU, but I don't see anything going on at LSU that would lead me to see championships in our future.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 3:31 pm to Madking
Spankem
So the 2016 Etling sucked but the 2017 Etling who lost to Troy and State is soooo much better? Interdasting.
In 2013-14 at Perdue, Etling was 2-10, 16 TDs and 13 Ints so he is better than he was
In 2015 over 12 games as a true sophomore Brandon Harris threw for 2,165 yards, 13 td's and 6 ints
In 2016 over 11 games as a 4th year junior Danny Etling threw for 2,123 yards, 11 td's and 5 ints
So, how do the wins and losses compare Pre-Bama?
Week 9 Pre-Bama Stats For Harris:
7-0
#2 in CFP vs #4 ALA (Highest Ranking Since 2011), 6.5 pt underdog on the road
Top Ranked QB in SEC
Zero Ints in 128 attempts - 4th best all time for LSU
67% vs 4 SEC opponents: State, AUB, USCarolina, FLA
45-21 vs AUB - 70.5% Completion TDS: 1 Passing, 2 Rushing
35-28 vs FLA - 68.5% 2 TDs
74% Under Pressure 1st SEC
Week 9 Pre-Bama stats for Etling:
6-2, #18 AP, #3 SECW
One Int,
53% vs SEC
When there is no OL Pass Protection you need a DTQB who can scramble and pass or run.
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I've seen garbage at QB the last few years.
He is better than what we have had and that is the argument in this thread.
At this point in time we are playing with the 2017 DE who has one interception for 9 TD's thrown.
Those other guys, the previous "duel threat" quarterbacks, including Etling of 2016 had an interception for roughly every two TD's thrown.
I would hypothesize that the 2017 DE is a much better overall quarterback than the guys that you posted in terms of not hurting the team which makes his contribution that much better for the team.
So the 2016 Etling sucked but the 2017 Etling who lost to Troy and State is soooo much better? Interdasting.
In 2013-14 at Perdue, Etling was 2-10, 16 TDs and 13 Ints so he is better than he was
In 2015 over 12 games as a true sophomore Brandon Harris threw for 2,165 yards, 13 td's and 6 ints
In 2016 over 11 games as a 4th year junior Danny Etling threw for 2,123 yards, 11 td's and 5 ints
So, how do the wins and losses compare Pre-Bama?
Week 9 Pre-Bama Stats For Harris:
7-0
#2 in CFP vs #4 ALA (Highest Ranking Since 2011), 6.5 pt underdog on the road
Top Ranked QB in SEC
Zero Ints in 128 attempts - 4th best all time for LSU
67% vs 4 SEC opponents: State, AUB, USCarolina, FLA
45-21 vs AUB - 70.5% Completion TDS: 1 Passing, 2 Rushing
35-28 vs FLA - 68.5% 2 TDs
74% Under Pressure 1st SEC
Week 9 Pre-Bama stats for Etling:
6-2, #18 AP, #3 SECW
One Int,
53% vs SEC
When there is no OL Pass Protection you need a DTQB who can scramble and pass or run.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:22 pm to SEC Grapevine
Lmao the fact that you think it’s funny or impossible for a player to improve from his freshman season to his senior season says it all. Thanks for the comedy though, I won’t even get into how stupid you look comparing him to Brandon Harris.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:33 pm to Madking
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Lmao the fact that you think it’s funny or impossible for a player to improve from his freshman season to his senior season says it all. Thanks for the comedy though, I won’t even get into how stupid you look comparing him to Brandon Harris.
He didn't say it was impossible. He gave statistical facts showing that Etling hasn't done so. And that his stats at LSU are nearly identical to Harris' stats at LSU whom so many say was awful here. Danny threw for 16 TD's as a true freshman at Purdue. He threw 11 last year as a 4th year junior.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:36 pm to SEC Grapevine
Y'all quit all this craziness about the ghosts from the past and the nightmare of the present because the future is about to happen. These freshmen QB's will make us forget about any quarterback that has played for LSU in the recent past. Write it down!!!! Happy Holloween.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:40 pm to the_watcher
Wrong
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:44 pm to Madking
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Wrong
It's not a debate of who is right and who is wrong. Their stats while being the quarterback of LSU are strikingly similar. It is a fact. You're still upvoting and editing every post you make I see. Carry on
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