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re: ESPN's Peter Burns Quick thoughts leaving LSU FB Spring Tour for @SIRIUSXM:

Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:35 am to
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:35 am to
don't worry about him. he's probably the worst poster on this site.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:38 am to
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so was he fired for squandering talent, or for being a poor recruiter?


Les was never a poor recruiter, but some positions thinned out at the end of his tenure. But he was mainly fired because he was a mediocre at best Gameday coach & a poor developer of QBs
Posted by SCwTiger
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:42 am to
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The problem is how is O going to react if shite starts to go wrong
shite started going pretty bad last year, only to be turned around fairly well. I know the potential (for a bad start) is definitely there with this schedule.

Can't wait for some football.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:43 am to
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But he was mainly fired because he was a mediocre at best Gameday coach & a poor developer of QBs


good thing his replacement is an improvement in both departments.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:44 am to
O's worse on both fronts and he's not even as good a recruiter. Talk about rolling snake eyes on a coaching hire.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:46 am to
NEither of those can be proven after 1 year unless you are biased which we know you are
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:48 am to
Saban, Herman, Fisher, Mullen, Malzahn, Smart, Morris.
They are all lickin' their chops, finna eat on the 2019 louisiana crootin class.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:49 am to
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NEither of those can be proven after 1 year unless you are biased which we know you are


We have four full seasons to go on.
Posted by Dave England
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:50 am to
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NEither of those can be proven after 1 year unless you are biased which we know you are


the absence of evidence that Orgeron is better than a mediocre gameday coach and developer of QBs does not mean that you cannot prove that Orgeron is not a mediocre game day coach nor a developer of QBs.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278285 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:53 am to
What we’re his ole miss class ranked vs his first at lsu?

Why is his win % much higher at lsu?
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:56 am to
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What we’re his ole miss class ranked vs his first at lsu? Why is his win % much higher at lsu?


He's at a program that was doing much better than the program that he received at OM.

My assertion has always been that Orgeron cannot positively affect the trajectory of any program he's put in charge of. So far that has held true.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:58 am to
Ok, so we can conclude they aren’t comparable. Glad that is out the way after a year
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:59 am to
Why do we need to sink this much time into someone that'e never proven anything? Why does he deserve that time?

Your level of support for him is incongruent with his demonstrated merit. His worthiness seems to only be based in theory. Do you not expect more for LSU than someone of his caliber?

I almost feel your support of him is out of spite or some low intensity form of trolling, with your avatar and everything. Find it hard to believe that you believe in him this much.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by Abe1961
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:01 am to
Franks! you are an idiot
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:07 am to
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Saban, Herman, Fisher, Mullen, Malzahn, Smart, Morris.
They are all lickin' their chops, finna eat on the 2019 louisiana crootin class.


That would be really stupid if it wasn't so damn funny.

All of those coaches besides Morris will be having to defend their turf against LSU. Fisher is losing guys to LSU not the other way around.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278285 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:08 am to
Because I still think he can recruit his arse off and I think this year will show that. That’s 80% of the battle. And as dumb as he sounds I think he can be better program manager than Miles because he’s wiling to adapt.

That, and I’m into sample size judgements. You cannot judge anything on 1 year.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:14 am to
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I think he can be better program manager than Miles because he’s wiling to adapt.


You're just a fricking idiot. That's all there is to it.

And Tiger ree nut sack is too.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:23 am to
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Because I still think he can recruit his arse off and I think this year will show that. That’s 80% of the battle


Still in the realm of theory. Sure he had a better class this past one than any he had a OM but we compare our classes to our own past classes. He had the lowest one in years. That's 100% on him. This shortcoming is particularly egregious since he's not an x's/o's guy. What else does he have to do?

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And as dumb as he sounds I think he can be better program manager than Miles because he’s wiling to adapt.




You see Orgeron as someone that's willing to adapt? You saw the Canada debacle and still believe that? The Ensminger hire is a sign of adapting?

He's worse because at least Miles accomplished something before he became complacent.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:28 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66434 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:28 am to
Blah blah blah talking points regurgitates

People act like Lea didn’t care about the DL.

The only reason O is at LSU right now is because Lea cares about the DL.

shite, Charles, Ingraham and deculus were already committed when Lea was fired.

The lines were getting rebuilt either way.

Os legacy will be fixing the offense and winning a championship. Not some made up rebuild.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278285 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:30 am to
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You see Orgeron as someone that's willing to adapt? You saw the Canada debacle and still believe that?



As opposed to running the program in the ground by keeping Cam Cameron around & some of his old cronies?

The team down the stretch played much better than they did earlier in the season. We saw marked progress. This is mainly what I’m talking about


quote:

Sure he had a better class this past one than any he had a OM but we compare our classes to our own past classes. He had the lowest one in years. That's 100% on him.



And if he pulls a top 10 class this year you’ll say ________??

Again, I know 1 year of sample size might confirm your bias in your mind, but this is not how smart people work.
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