re: Espn: Sizing up the SEC resumes

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I highly doubt the committee would put Baylor in over Saban and Bama, they'd instantly lose credibility.

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Baylor's marquee win is better than Bama's marquee win. You can say Bama's loss was better, but Baylor lost to #11 in BCS, very respectable.

Baylor won their conference......Bama didn't even win their division.

$ > credibility

??? WTF are you talking about? Yeah, the television money the Baylor Bearcats would draw over the Alabama Crimson Tide. Hilarious.

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Please tell me you're not talking about Oklahoma

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BCS has Oklahoma ranked 11 and LSU ranked 16.

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??? WTF are you talking about?

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Look at it this way:

For the sake of argument, switch Baylor and MSU. The top 4 would be:

FSU
Auburn
Alabama
Baylor

Now put on a 4-team playoff with those teams and see what kind of national draw that tournament would get.

Now consider a 4 team playoff with:
FSU
Auburn
MSU
Stanford

Which playoff scenario do you think would make more money nationally?

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I highly doubt the committee would put Baylor in over Saban and Bama, they'd instantly lose credibility.

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I don't know man. I'm curious for this year, if Duke pulled of the miracle, how much love Baylor and MSU would have gotten. 4 teams with the current finish? A FSU/MSU/Baylor/AU selection wouldn't be shocking, would it?

Ok, so you were talking about Oklahama. We're on tigerdroppings and you're telling me you're more impressed with Baylor beating Oklahoma than what Bama did to LSU. Got it.

I personally think LSU would tear apart Oklahama..but those BCS rankings are hard to argue with. It is the fricking Big 12. I think that's the point. Let's put it this way...list the number of teams in the SEC that you think would have a shot at beating Baylor.

Now list the number of Big 12 teams you'd give a shot at beating Alabama.

Check that..how many SEC teams would you give a shot/rank capable of wining the Big 12. So that whole conference champ thing goes up in smoke when you're comparing the Big 12 with the SEC, it's not an apples to apples comparison, all conferences aren't created equal..so why even go there?

The fundamental flaw with the BCS, 4-team playoff, etc appraoches is that thay all miss the ultimate goal: which team has demonstrated its superiority over the most number of other teams. This is not the same as matching the "two best teams" in a final game.

Since the number of teams precludes a round-robin schedule there will always be a measure of subjectivity interjected. Likewise, best 2 of 3, etc are not doable due to the nature of the sport. But these are mitigated by the approach given above.

For example, in 2011, we demonstrated our superiority over the Pac-10 (via Oregon), Big East (via WVU), and the SEC. What wasn't demonstrated was the Big-12 and Big-10. That's why we should've played OkieState.

Until the ultimate goal is corrected the amount of disagreement will continue.

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I personally think LSU would tear apart Oklahoma

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Unfortunately that counts for about as much as me thinking LSU was going to tear apart Ole Miss...

..Zero.

The "narrative" drives everything in college football, and the "narrative" would insist on including Alabama.

The main achievement of the BCS was to get conference champions who would be otherwise committed to different bowls to be able to play each other. The inclusion of the Rose Bowl and their commitments from the Pac10 and BigTen were the last hold out from the Bowl Alliance that preceded the BCS.

Each year, the talking heads have latched onto the "narrative" regarding who should have been in the BCSNCG. Every time the BCS "worked as it's supposed to", it was because the resulting matchup had the AP #1 vs #2. So, when Auburn got screwed in 2004 or Oklahoma State got screwed in 2011, the talking heads doing the analysis kept repeating the phrase "the BCS got it right". But when AP#1 USCw got left out in 2003, the talking heads screamed long enough for the AP to eventually pull it's participation in the BCS.

(To be fair, Reese Davis of ESPN carried a lot of water for Okie State in 2011 before the SECCG weekend, but by the time the Bedlam game was being played, the crawl on the bottom during the game was announcing it was going to be LSU & Bama.)

You can bet that the same dynamic will exist with the playoffs. In the years that the committee picks the top 4 in the AP poll, the system will have "worked". Any year that a top 4 team is left out, the lower ranked team that made it will be discussed as the "controversial pick", even if they were a conference champion with the same record.

We complain a lot about message boards being "echo chambers", but we never seem to notice that the talking head guys on TV are just as much an echo chamber. After all, it's a bad idea to get into an argument with a guy that owns a microphone or buys ink by the barrel.

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