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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:33 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:33 pm to Godfather1
The one's I worked at were strict as hell about it, I can't say I know what Shady's policies are, then again I worked at place that was a lot more classy than a college bar. Had a friend get fired for taking a sip of his jack and coke about 10 minutes before his shift was over, thought it was pretty common to not have your employees drinking while on the job.
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:33 pm to Tino
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you start a fight outside a bar
It started inside FYI.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:34 pm to sheek
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pretty much every bar or restaurant that serves alcohol has pretty strict no-drinking on the job policies
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you obviously haven't been out much
Don't point that at me. I know better. Some bars do, some bars don't.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:34 pm to JPLSU1981
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-Lowery and girlfriend break up
-Lowery stalks x-girlfriend at home and then at bar
-Lowery not happy with Brad Wing for talking to his x-girlfriend and cusses at and punches him
-Lowery kicked out of Shady's
-Lowery (and friends that came to pick him up)waits on x-girlfriend and/or football players in parking lot so that he/they can start crap
-All hell breaks loose in parking lot and one of the "victims" (cough cough) gets kicked in the ordeal
-Lowery gets beat down
I agree with this entire thing. Dudes got their arse kicked. End of story.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:34 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
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you got to be a crazy mofo to take a swing at a SEC football player if your just an average slapdick 22 year old
Booty, it will drive you insane.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:35 pm to Godfather1
I'm going to be pissed if my flight doesn't have wireless.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:35 pm to JPLSU1981
I can't imagine it ever being in a local bar's interest to throw the team under the bus, but maybe they're for real.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:35 pm to Tino
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you start a fight outside a bar, you get what's coming to you
I can tell you now I don't give a frick who you are. If someone starts a fight with me, and I get him on the ground somehow I am beating him until he is no longer a threat in my mind. Not the people who are standing around opinions.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:35 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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* bhp opens a bottle a scotch and pours a little drink *
Great minds...
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Antonio Moss
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The main accusers credibility is absolutely shot at this point
There are four people pressing charges. Lowery is one of four.
Lowery does not have broken vertebrae.
Regardless of his actions, there is video of him being kicked on the ground in a defenseless position. Not good, not good at all.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Geaux2002
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2) How is who started it relevant to charges of 2nd degree battery. Just cause someone swings first doesn't mean it's okay to kick then while they are down and defenseless at the end of the fight.
I think if I were in a position of a D/A or even of the police having to decide whether to charge and prosecute this case it would be very relevant to me. Things like the character of the alleged victims, their starting the fight, a prior record for (at least) one, (at least one) getting kicked out of school, one having a restraining order against him. etc. etc. would play a huge part in my decision on whether I can successfully prosecute.
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Which part of the incident was this? Inside the bar or outside the bar? Supposedly were two incidents where people were kicked out of the bar and then the brawl outside.
Yes. I wondered this as well.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Antonio Moss
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The main accusers credibility is absolutely shot at this point. No one is going to believe his accusations of who did it. And that's a pretty big deal.
Main accuser? There were 3 other victims in all of this. discrediting one for being involved in an incident inside doesn't clear wrongdoing by the players against the other 3.
The video backs up parts of the police report, so the players aren't getting off based on Lowery being a hot head inside the bar.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to musick
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Team sweep strikes again..
He's cut, he's cut, the NegaTiger's cut and it's a bad cut, and now it's Team Sweep coming after NegaTiger!
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Wild Thang
How has this thread gone 5 pages without someone saying ESPN hates lsu?
Thats gotta be a record
Thats gotta be a record
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
-Lowery and girlfriend break up -Lowery stalks x-girlfriend at home and then at bar -Lowery not happy with Brad Wing for talking to his x-girlfriend and cusses at and punches him -Lowery kicked out of Shady's -Lowery (and friends that came to pick him up)waits on x-girlfriend and/or football players in parking lot so that he can start crap -All hell breaks loose in parking lot -Lowery gets beat down
- Andrew Lowery is incapacitated (as shown on video)
- Andrew Lowery is kicked in the face by a taller than average black male (which is also shown on the video)
PR is PR - but the LAW is the LAW. All the DA needs is that video + motive. Witnesses provide motive, even the ones who think they are helping JJ.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:36 pm to Geaux2Hell
quote:Especially against Arkansas...
If this is the type of behavior they are capable of then why has this not happened before??
quote:I see what you're saying, but the initial story, i.e., truck blocked in, honked/yelled to move, players attack, is not that unlikely under those circumstances.
My point is a brawl like this is not instigated by one side, there is mutual aggression by both parties involved.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:37 pm to Tigerfan7218
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The one's I worked at were strict as hell about it, I can't say I know what Shady's policies are, then again I worked at place that was a lot more classy than a college bar. Had a friend get fired for taking a sip of his jack and coke about 10 minutes before his shift was over, thought it was pretty common to not have your employees drinking while on the job.
I bartended in Tigerland in the late 80-90's
We were all loaded every night we worked, liquor or something, just saying
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:37 pm to FightinTiga
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Won't change a thing concerning the battery charge.
Maybe not, but if someone starts a fight with me and throws a punch, he better not think the fight is over just because his bitch arse is in the fetal position.
I don't know how many of you have been in a bar fight, but I wasn't always the sweetheart I am today. The combination of adrenaline and alcohol makes it pretty hard to stop just because someone hits the ground.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:37 pm to Antonio Moss
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No one is going to believe his accusations of who did it.
unfortunately, in the court of public opinion, the first stories have gained traction and few across the country are bothering to catch up on the story. There are still folks who are outraged at JJ for ripping a defenseless veteran Marine from a truck and curb-stomping him, all because he tooted his horn to get out of a parking lot.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:37 pm to JPLSU1981
And the plot thickens!
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