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re: Ed Orgeron's presser on the offense
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:51 pm to dukke v
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:51 pm to dukke v
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YES
There. That wasn't too difficult.
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But if he is a good enough HC he lets his OC do what needs to be done to win....
Apparently he did. Production increased after he took over.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:52 pm
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:53 pm to lsu2006
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There's a difference between the level of influence on an offense of an interim head coach with no offensive coaching experience who takes over 4 games in and makes no major staff changes and a head coach who hand picks his entire staff and has influence and control from the top down for an entire offseason and the entire regular season. With different levels of influence comes different levels of "responsibility". This isn't complicated stuff, Rog.
Apparently the interim coach let his OC do his own thing and didn't interfere, would you say?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You poor little man... You get way too drunk and personally hurt here
WHOA.............. Save your insults for REE,JEAUX,And Ricky daddy..... You know better with me...........
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Production increased after he took over.
Agreed... The offense was actually fun to watch after Miles was canned................
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Apparently the interim coach let his OC do his own thing and didn't interfere, would you say?
In the context of the 2013 USC team? I don't really have any idea. I don't follow USC. But statistically speaking their offense wasn't anything to write home about that year and was honestly borderline bad in some areas. So I'm still not entirely sure what you're trying to drive at here.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:56 pm to lsu2006
Shrubs still doesn't know that the 2013 USC offense wasn't any good.
He thinks if he ignores the stats that say 61st in scoring offense, 74th in yards per game that they don't exist.
He thinks if he ignores the stats that say 61st in scoring offense, 74th in yards per game that they don't exist.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:57 pm to lsu2006
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Good ole disingenuous Rog.
Kinda like how he keeps using total yards to show that the 2013 USC offense was really close to LSU’s but neglects to mention they played one more game than us?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:00 pm to lsu2006
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the context of the 2013 USC team? I don't really have any idea
Well goldfish claims the HC alwaysinterferes and hurtshis offense, yet after he took over USC their production increased.
The entire point us, he doesn't always get in the way of the offense like believes, as ppg and ypg increased though the schedule got much tougher.
So evidently he does not mess up the offense everywhere he goes as the poster in question claims.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Well goldfish claims the HC alwaysinterferes and hurtshis offense, yet after he took over USC their production increased.
The 2013 USC offense sucked.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:02 pm to Goldrush25
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The 2013 USC offense sucked.
The 2013 USC offense improved with Orgeron as HC
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The 2013 USC offense improved with Orgeron as HC
Then why was Helton hired instead of O for the permanent HC position?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:07 pm to la_birdman
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Then why was Helton hired instead of O for the permanent HC position?
He wasn't.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The 2013 USC offense improved with Orgeron as HC
Oh now it's improved.
Goalpost moving. So you finally acknowledge that they sucked overall?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He wasn't.
You're correct.
Point being, why wasn't O hired for the HC position?
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:09 pm to lsu2006
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So I'm still not entirely sure what you're trying to drive at here.
I would say he wants you to believe that the LSU offense improved after Miles was canned............ I really don't care what O did at USC.....
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:10 pm to Goldrush25
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Oh now it's improved.
Correct. Good to see you acknowledge that he didn't get "in the way of the offense"
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:11 pm to la_birdman
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Point being, why wasn't O hired for the HC position.
No sure, but in a redo I'll betcha they would have hired him over Sarkesian and later Helton.
He was the fans choice for sure.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Correct. Good to see you acknowledge that he didn't get "in the way of the offense"
They sucked.
I don't think raising their offensive ranking from abysmal to pretty bad is anything to brag about. It's all bad.
Plus the entire premise was that offenses under this coach have all been bad. You have not disproved that.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:16 pm to Goldrush25
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I don't think raising their offensive ranking
Raising seems to be the opposite direction of "getting in the way"
Glad you finally get it.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 4:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
They sucked. Are you missing that part?
The offense was a little less horrible under the coach than they were under Lane Kiffin. Is this the evidence that you're using to prove that he's presided over a good offense, because it's a piss poor case you're making.
The offense was a little less horrible under the coach than they were under Lane Kiffin. Is this the evidence that you're using to prove that he's presided over a good offense, because it's a piss poor case you're making.
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