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re: Don’t let O hire ANYBODY!!
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:48 am to ItNeverRains
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:48 am to ItNeverRains
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Also hearing O wants Nielsen and LSU wants Mason.
I would be happy with either. But looking at Nielsen's bio I tend to agree a little more with Coach O here.
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:48 am to The Pirate King
I’m surprised you’re even showing your face around these parts. Hahaha
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:49 am to GumboPot
I wanted to ask op the same thing it's not like mason is not a good DC. These people are crazy thinking they know more than the powers that be. Now OC Esminger on the other hand is another story.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:50 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Don't let IowaCityTigerFan post any more.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:50 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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Go freaking hire Marcus Freeman.
Freeman is just as big of a risk as Mason IMO. He is coaching under a great DC in his own right in Fickell.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:52 am to LSUgrad88
I’m dead serious.. and I don’t believe O is a head coach in this conference.
I didn’t like the hire. I admire his promises of coordinators so he could focus on recruiting.
I didn’t like the hire. I admire his promises of coordinators so he could focus on recruiting.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:52 am to IowaCityTigerFan
He is the coach man, enough with this shitt. He hires who the fuk he wants and lives or dies with it. Does not need imput from idiots.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:53 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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Based on what man... based on what data?
Looking at Mason's record I guess I'm falling for the PR stunt like the LSU executives. This is the first time I've looked at his record in terms of defense and it's not that impressive. The media and PR folks would love the Mason hire for non-football reasons.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:55 am to mtntiger
Interesting thought
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:56 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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Have you ever interviewed anybody that you know could do your job... maybe even better than you can? Did you still hire them? Whether you answer yes or no.. it reveals something about you.
I grasp this concept. I don’t believe O has the luxury to employ this strategy. He needs to make great hires fast or he’s toast. So let him make the hires and if it fails, show him the door.
By your logic Nick Saban bringing Sark back was/is a huge mistake. And that type of logic in my opinion is terrible logic.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 9:57 am to IowaCityTigerFan
No. He should be able to hire who he wants. And if it fails next year he loses his job. When admin butts in it hasn’t worked. Canada and Pelini were pushed to the top by admin. Nielsen is who O wants to hire and he could be the Brady of next year. Young guy.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:00 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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So, who should make the hire besides the head coach?
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The AD. You, me ... anybody besides O.
The AD is the reason Pelini was hired. Woodward either needs to fire O (which isn't going to happen) or he needs to let him hire his own people. If you handcuff the head coach by forcing his hires, you can't hold him accountable for the results. Give him all the rope he needs. If he hangs himself next year.....then everybody (including the head coach) gets fired.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:01 am to mgdtiger
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Canada and Pelini were pushed to the top by admin.
This is correct. It doesn’t work. Granted Pelini due to what was available and O’s choices being very limited due to timing were not ideal. The contract was terrible and that isn’t on Orgeron.
Orgeron has ample time to make hires he deems quality hires this time around. Let him make them and sink or swim
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:02 am to IowaCityTigerFan
You don’t actually believe that they wouldn’t let the head coach make the hire?
No offense, but you must not know anything about football or how management works…
Woodward doesn’t make the hire, coach O is is going to tell Woodward who he wants and yes he will have to make a pitch, but ultimately it comes down to what the head coach wants.
I’m not really understanding your logic here please explain?
No offense, but you must not know anything about football or how management works…
Woodward doesn’t make the hire, coach O is is going to tell Woodward who he wants and yes he will have to make a pitch, but ultimately it comes down to what the head coach wants.
I’m not really understanding your logic here please explain?
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:05 am to KC Tiger
I agree with you guys.. if the reports are true that Woodward and O aren’t on speaking terms.. then letting O make his hires and let him fail or succeed on his own is a strong play.
My argument is, I’m a damn donor.. and I hate throwing away money. So if O is our problem, then let’s let him do what he does best. Be the face.
And let smart people do what they do best.. scheme.
My argument is, I’m a damn donor.. and I hate throwing away money. So if O is our problem, then let’s let him do what he does best. Be the face.
And let smart people do what they do best.. scheme.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:07 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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I agree with you guys.. if the reports are true that Woodward and O aren’t on speaking terms.. then letting O make his hires and let him fail or succeed on his own is a strong play.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:09 am to DiehardLSUZach
It’s obvious that I don’t like O. I don’t trust him.
I get what you’re saying. I understand how management works.
Yes, I’m suggesting that they go around O to make this hire. No, it’s not a good situation. But it’s what is best for O and this program.
I get what you’re saying. I understand how management works.
Yes, I’m suggesting that they go around O to make this hire. No, it’s not a good situation. But it’s what is best for O and this program.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:10 am to IowaCityTigerFan
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I agree with you guys.
I don't think you do. We are saying O needs to make the hires. You started a thread saying someone else should make the hires ("the AD, you, me, anybody").
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Woodward and O aren’t on speaking terms
I haven't heard this.
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My argument is, I’m a damn donor.. and I hate throwing away money.
Damn near everybody on this board in a donor, so that doesn't have any sway with anybody. Nobody likes throwing money away, but that is the way of college football. Hirings and firing are not new to the sport.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:14 am to KC Tiger
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I don't think you do. We are saying O needs to make the hires. You started a thread saying someone else should make the hires ("the AD, you, me, anybody").
I’m saying that I agree that it’s a possible solution.
Let O make it on his own.
But what I’m suggesting is that AD goes around O to hire an ascending coach. It’s a prick move.. But it’s what is best for the program and O.
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