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re: Does LF rush for 1800 yards this season?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:24 pm to broadcaster
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:24 pm to broadcaster
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A lot of u are forgetting he doesn't have 2 seniors in front of him this year that he had to split carries with that had already earned their stripes , he's the man this year
OK but Miles usually uses cupcake games to give back up carries and save our starter for sec games
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Again. Even single recruiting site AGREES WITH ME
So, That doesn't mean they are right... There have been plenty of so-called 5-star players that fail in college just like there are plenty of so-called 3-star players that have turned out great.... I don't know who was put in charge of the so-called star system, but to me it means nothing... A player still has to be coached and perform at the college level no matter how many stars they have...
So, That doesn't mean they are right... There have been plenty of so-called 5-star players that fail in college just like there are plenty of so-called 3-star players that have turned out great.... I don't know who was put in charge of the so-called star system, but to me it means nothing... A player still has to be coached and perform at the college level no matter how many stars they have...
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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While he had a good year he wasn't KILLING IT. he had 1100 yards which comes to 64 yards per game. Which is good but far from KILLING it.
This just shows how little you know about pro football.RB'S are not used like they have been in the past.. Hill had a great year last year... Tell me how many rb's avg 100 yds per game the last 5 years in the NFL...64 yards per game is pretty good in THIS NFL.......
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It's a fact that Hill wasn't a top 20 Rb in 2011.
Well I guess not... He wasn't even on the roster......... BTW why the HATE for Hill??????
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every single recruiting site agrees with me.
So..........
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:56 pm to chilge1
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Jeremy Hill 2012 142 car 755 yards 5.3 ypc 12 TD, 8 rec 73 yards
This is basically the last 6 games worth of stats... He didn't get many carries at all until the SC game... Nice try though.........
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:59 pm to dukke v
Can't argue with a brick head. Somebody said he's the next Adrian Peterson and all the rest of the sheeple follow suit. That alone secures his place as the best Tiger ever
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:11 pm to dukke v
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Again. Even single recruiting site AGREES WITH ME
jeremy hill was a recruit 4 years ago. recruiting sites are wrong all the time. i'd rather give an evaluation based on what we've seen on the field. until fournette actually produces at the level hill did and continues to do, i could give two shits what rivals said his potential is. yeah he'll likely be a great player, but downplaying how great hill was in comparison to what fournette's supposed "potential" is....no wonder other fan bases mock LSu fans concerning fournette.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:15 pm to lsufball19
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recruiting sites are wrong all the time. i'd rather give an evaluation based on what we've seen on the field
Yup...this is a fact... Maybe rickdaddy will read this post..........
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:43 pm to dukke v
Oh, and since he wants to keep talking about what Rivals guys said about "potential" let's look at the class of 2011 running backs:
1. Malcolm Brown - Texas - 5 star- UDFA
2. James Wilder - FSU - 5 star - UDFA (practice squad behind, you guessed it, J hill)
3. Brandon Williams - OU - 5 star - UDFA
4. Isiah Crowell - UGA - 5 star - UDFA
5. Mike Bellamy - Clemson - 5 star - CFL
6. Mike Blakley - Florida to Auburn to USF - 4 star - ???
7. Savon Huggins - Rutgers to N Iowa - 4 star - ???
8. Aaron Green - Nebraska to TCU - 4 star - still playing
9. Kenny Hilliard - LSU - 4 star - 7th round
10. Devonta Freeman - FSU - 4 star - 4th round
Yeah, Rivals is clearly fricking gospel because they're paid to evaluate recruits' "potential." Melvin Gordan and Jeremy Hill both ranked below 20th in their positional rankings? They don't compare to the "potential" of those UDFA agent 5 stars
1. Malcolm Brown - Texas - 5 star- UDFA
2. James Wilder - FSU - 5 star - UDFA (practice squad behind, you guessed it, J hill)
3. Brandon Williams - OU - 5 star - UDFA
4. Isiah Crowell - UGA - 5 star - UDFA
5. Mike Bellamy - Clemson - 5 star - CFL
6. Mike Blakley - Florida to Auburn to USF - 4 star - ???
7. Savon Huggins - Rutgers to N Iowa - 4 star - ???
8. Aaron Green - Nebraska to TCU - 4 star - still playing
9. Kenny Hilliard - LSU - 4 star - 7th round
10. Devonta Freeman - FSU - 4 star - 4th round
Yeah, Rivals is clearly fricking gospel because they're paid to evaluate recruits' "potential." Melvin Gordan and Jeremy Hill both ranked below 20th in their positional rankings? They don't compare to the "potential" of those UDFA agent 5 stars
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:47 pm to lsufball19
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if he rushes for 1800 yards it likely means our QB situation is just as much of a mess as it was last year and we'll suck again.
I believe the opposite. If our QB play can show any signs of life and complete some passes that will take some defenders out of the box then I can see LF running for at least 1500 yds.. If the QB play is the same as last year then there is no chance. As good as LF is becoming hes not good enough to run for that many yards against 9 and 10 men fronts.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:04 pm to lsufball19
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Oh, and since he wants to keep talking about what Rivals guys said about "potential" let's look at the class of 2011 running backs:
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Yeah, Rivals is clearly fricking gospel because they're paid to evaluate recruits' "potential." Melvin Gordan and Jeremy Hill both ranked below 20th in their positional rankings? They don't compare to the "potential" of those UDFA agent 5 stars
Nice work...........
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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J HILL wasn't even a top 20 Rb recruit in 2011.let alone the #1 overall recruit that LF was.
Now if you want to talk production at lsu then yeah Hill gets the nod. But as far as pure talent, Hill isnt close.
This may be a shock to you but sometimes the recruiting rankings aren't perfect
If anyone had a clue what Hill would have turned into he would have probably been a top 3 RB recruit in the country coming out of high school if not the #1.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 4:24 pm to dukke v
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This is basically the last 6 games worth of stats... He didn't get many carries at all until the SC game... Nice try though.
And Fournette didn't get many carries at all until the FLA game, albeit more than Hill did in 2012.
Point being, the two have comparable numbers as freshmen.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 4:54 pm to chilge1
Why are we comparing a freshman who's never see the field to Jeremy Hill? 
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Rickdaddy, I have to disagree with you here, and I realize it's a nitpick.
Speed and size are gifts not talent.
That's what TALENT IS
My opinion, talent is the combination of vision, awareness, etc that sets one individual apart from other, equally gifted guys.
Example: Dalton Hilliard. 5'8", somewhere around 180 to 200 lbs, depending on whatever point in his college/pro career. No real straight-line sprinting speed, I think I remember him only getting one long TD (60 yds), and it was almost awkward to watch him waddle down the sideline. Yes, he had enormous thighs (like that of a lineman), and would severely punish linebackers and safeties at the end of his runs. Based on that, you would label him as lacking talent (size and speed remember?).
But he was extremely talented- go watch his highlights. If you and I challenged him to go from your bedroom to your living room, and we both set up in the hallway, he'd probably get by both of us without being touched, and we'd have pulled groins, hamstrings, and God knows what other muscles; because he could juke and contort like he was in the fricking Matrix.
If Fournette has any of that, he hasn't shown it yet. He's a lot along the lines of Herschel Walker, in that he's freakishly well made physically, but his skills are not yet equal.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:20 pm to chilge1
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And Fournette didn't get many carries at all until the FLA game, albeit more than Hill did in 2012.
He played a whole lot more than Hill did the before the Fla game... All I remember from Hill is that he came in to pass block the 1st 6 games.. LF had way more carries in his 1st 6 games than Hill did.... Again Nice try... Now IF Miles does for LF in his 2nd year and use him like he did Hill in 2013, then LF could have a great year...
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:22 pm to Scoob
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Example: Dalton Hilliard. 5'8", somewhere around 180 to 200 lbs, depending on whatever point in his college/pro career. No real straight-line sprinting speed, I think I remember him only getting one long TD (60 yds), and it was almost awkward to watch him waddle down the sideline. Yes, he had enormous thighs (like that of a lineman), and would severely punish linebackers and safeties at the end of his runs. Based on that, you would label him as lacking talent (size and speed remember?).
Great example......
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:28 pm to dukke v
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This just shows how little you know about pro football.RB'S are not used like they have been in the past.. Hill had a great year last year... Tell me how many rb's avg 100 yds per game the last 5 years in the NFL...64 yards per game is pretty good in THIS N
HOLY shite. I know more football than you. I never said JHILL didn't have a good year.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:30 pm to dukke v
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I guess not... He wasn't even on the roster......... BTW why the HATE for Hill??????
You really have a problem with reading comprehension. I HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID JHILL IS MY 2ND FAVORITE LSU RB, EVER. HE IS BEHIND ONLY FAULK AS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE. but as far as pure talent LF is more god given talent than Hill.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 5:33 pm to Scoob
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My opinion, talent is the combination of vision, awareness, etc that sets one individual apart from other, equally gifted guys.
Except vision and awareness are dependant on the players around you. A great oline can make it seem like an average rb has great vision. I see what you're saying but I just always equate talent to physical talent. Maybe I shouldn't but I always think of talent as things that can't be taught.
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