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re: Does Jefferson Have any more excuses?

Posted on 3/26/10 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 3/26/10 at 1:27 pm to
Stopped reading at "third year starter"
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 4:05 pm to
"I guess I am more old school and feel like you need a good fullback and run the I form."

"LSU agrees with this, but we didn't have a good fullback or Oline last year"

It's been a mystery on why Les Miles continues to employ an OC whose expertise is not the I formation and a power running game. The entire "Alleva would not buy out Crowtons contract" scenario makes more and more sense, especially with the hiring of Billy Gonzales as "Passing Game Coordinator." Looks like BG's apparent "Simplifying the passing offense with less reads for the QB's" this Spring, means we'll see a lot more power running like LM wants and a lot less of Crowton running his "Everything but the kitchen sink" offense....
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33326 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 4:46 pm to
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A regular season of 9-3, a major bowl invite, and a national ranking left you with a bad taste?

No, it was watching the 112th ranked offense that brought my gameday food back up into my mouth
Posted by bearcat78
Southeast
Member since Mar 2010
351 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 4:59 pm to
Crowton has always done great with an experienced QB and he will have JJ ready to take charge of the SEC this season put it in the bank!!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:51 pm to
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No, it was watching the 112th ranked offense that brought my gameday food back up into my mouth


I hear you, but the big picture is that result wise both in the SEC and nationally we improved from 08 and hopefully that will continue into 10.

Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22411 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:54 pm to
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Does Jefferson Have any more excuses?

He won't need any excuses seeing as he is going to be ripping the SEC a new one this season











Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 5:59 pm to
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He won't need any excuses seeing as he is going to be ripping the SEC a new one this season


JORDAN frickING JEFFERSON.

I BELIEVE.
Posted by Tony the Tiger23
Tyler,Tx
Member since Jan 2010
118 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 6:04 pm to
as do i
i think he will be good for us this year
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 6:24 pm to
NO!!!!


Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 6:28 pm to
Garrett is not "better than" Jarrett Lee.
If he were, he would be the starter for the purple in the game on Saturday.

Miles said, and its quoted on TD, that he thought Garrett would be the backup this year, but Jarrett Lee is competing and keeping the back up position by his play on the field.

So be it.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 6:56 pm to
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JORDAN frickING JEFFERSON.

I BELIEVE.


do we really have another choice?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61877 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 7:07 pm to
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Last 2 years we can blame his inconsistency, and lack of good judgement on his age and "still developing" mentality. As a third year starter there will be no excuses anymore. For the people who know what is going on, is garrett ready to take over? Ive had high hopes for the last two years before the season, and ended with a bad taste. So this year Im going in thinking we suck so I wont be as disappointed.


80% of Jefferson's problems were due to having no running game and below average pass protection. You are dreaming if you think that Garrett would have simply overcome that last year.

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37892 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 7:26 pm to
You do suck...
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28909 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 8:40 pm to
Back to basics offense with a tough hard nosed front line, RBs that are more about converting third downs than flahy footwork(sans Murphy, we need at least one right?), a Junior QB that Finally has his mind right and ready to be Captain of the ship, and Superhuman WRs that will be amazing in the open field....

Yep, I feel real good about this year's offense
Posted by Dead Fish
In the swamps
Member since Mar 2010
1586 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 9:43 pm to
I’m afraid that Jefferson will struggle as long as Crowton remains the offensive coordinator. I mean look at the two quarterbacks he’s coached so for since his arrival. One of them set the NCAA record for most pick 6’s in a single season with seven and the other one struggled miserably for an entire season, and apparently is still struggling.

Not to mention that Crowton’s offenses in 2008 and 2009 also sucked. As a matter of fact, a lot of people credit 2007’s offense to Crowton, but that wasn’t Crowton’s offense. It was Jimbo Fisher’s offense and Matt Flynn was also a 5th year quarterback coached and tutored by Jimbo Fisher.

Thus, I don’t think it matters who starts for LSU, whether it is JJ or JL, I believe whomever it is will inevitably struggle more than necessary because of Crowton’s inability to coach offense. That is unless Miles gets smart and places more offensive responsibility on Billy Gonzales.

However, I believe that LSU’s offense will be significantly stronger this year, simply because it can’t get any worse. That and the offensive line should be bigger, stronger, and better. Thus, with the improvement on defense we should be able to win a few more games this season. Meaning, of course, that we sill probably be stuck with a mediocre head coach and offensive coordinator for a bunch more years.

Posted by knockers
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
464 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 9:45 pm to
Ive solved all the QB problems. Sit 'em all on the bench and go to the Wing T or Wish Bone. That Worley Kid can run at FB and just keep feeding them 3 headed monster at RB. RS at QB. Just eat up clock and play D. RS throws about 4 passes per game all for TDS. Guess RR have to play D. Hell of a SS. Whos with me? I think GC might have a massive heart attack.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Does Jefferson Have any more excuses?


N
O
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 9:53 pm to
To all the other posters. Name me one game last season JJ WON the game - was far better than everyone else including the opposing QB. I can remember several for JR, MF, RD, JL even. MM didn't have 2 b/c of our D in '03. UNtil he has "that" game - = passing 2-3 times greater than 20 yds against a solid SEC D, leading his team back to victory on game winning drives. Was so hot that you see smoke coming out of his helmet. LOOKS like he has control of the game in his hands.
I call that confidence and fear. Confidence he knows he is in control and fear on the faces of the opposing D.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62017 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 10:09 pm to
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the other one struggled miserably for an entire season,





quote:

Matt Flynn was also a 5th year quarterback



Interesting point. You know how good Matt Flynn was when he was 19? Or 20 for that matter? Neither do I, 'cause he was picking splinters out of his arse as the 2nd and 3rd-string QB. I'm no Crowton apologist by any means, but be fricking fair.


quote:

Crowton’s inability to coach offense



I mean, holy shite. Crowton's last 4 jobs:

LSU--Offensive Coordinater
Oregon--Offensive Coordinater
Chicago Bears--Offensive Coordinater
BYU--Head Coach


But yeah, he can't coach offense. That's why all these prestiguous universities and NFL teams keep lining up to fill his pockets. His last 2 seasons have been relatively bad, but let's not be fricking retarded.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78463 posts
Posted on 3/26/10 at 10:16 pm to
Crowton also has a history of an offense that gets worse through the course of his tenure too

and he's pretty much hated by all those programs you listed
This post was edited on 3/26/10 at 10:21 pm
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