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re: Do you think we will hire a new O coordinator in the offseason?

Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Maybe Canada could've spent less time in the barroom and more time in the football film room explaining his offense and what was expected of each player and coach O wouldn't have felt the need to ask him to simplify it.


Oh look, Ben is in another thread lying.

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie on the Internet, Ben?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:22 pm to
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Oh look, Ben is in another thread lying


Prove it.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Prove it.


Prove you lied about the accusation you just made?

I'm not sure you understand burden of proof...
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:33 pm to
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O has not been a terrible hire


I said offensively. You are in serious denial if you cant even bring yourself to admit having LSU ranked almost at the bottom of the SEC and triple figures nationally doesn't represent terrible. 22 games into his LSU stay o has given us our worse offense in ten years.

The coach might not suck but his results on offense sure do. Everyone not blinded for some reason sees it. Open your eyes and maybe you will too.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Prove you lied about the accusation you just made?

I'm not sure you understand burden of proof



Apparently you don't. You made the accusation now prove it.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:37 pm to
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22 games into his LSU stay o has given us our worse offense in ten years.


30 if you count his interim...and guys defending him do, when it benefits their argument that is.

For instance, If I list Orgeron's career head coaching record at 26-31 these guys would freak out, because it excludes the SC and LSU interim stints which pad the stats.

But if you include them, then it makes it much harder to call Orgeron simply a 2nd year coach, since he coached 3/4's of the 2016 season.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:39 pm to
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said offensively. You are in serious denial if you cant even bring yourself to admit having LSU ranked almost at the bottom of the SEC and triple figures nationally doesn't represent terrible. 22 games into his LSU stay o has given us our worse offense in ten years.

The coach might not suck but his results on offense sure do. Everyone not blinded for some reason sees it. Open your eyes and maybe you will too



Do you honestly think that I can't see that the offense needs a lot of work? The difference being that I want to see what it's going to take to fix it and you want to get rid of the coaches. When I see that they're incapable of fixing it I'll be calling for their heads too but I think calling for them to be replaced is premature.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:39 pm to
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You made the accusation now prove it.


I did neither, pay attention.

You made an accusation, and someone said you were lying...which is essentially asking you to provide evidence for your accusation. You then told him to prove you made it up, which is ludicrous.

You know what...never mind...
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:43 pm to
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I think O and SE are going to try everything they can to run up the score on our remaining shitty opponents. I think they will and it will pad the numbers.



Ding ding ding.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:49 pm to
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did neither, pay attention.

You made an accusation, and someone said you were lying...which is essentially asking you to provide evidence for your accusation. You then told him to prove you made it up, which is ludicrous.

You know what...never mind



Check his post history. Every post made in response to me is an insult. Every one of them calls me a liar. The information on Canada is second or third hand but where there's smoke there's fire. Besides if I exaggerated a little bit who cares. Everybody on this board overreacts and exaggerates. I guess it's only ok when running the two coaches that everyone loves to hate down.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37295 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:49 pm to
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Coach o is doing a remarkable job so far as head coach


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I sense orgeron is too personally connected to ensminger to axe him, and unfortunately i think it needs to happen for this team/program to make the next leap forward.


Contradictory, and can we quit with the hyperbole? O has done a serviceable job, as of right now, above average at best. And yes better than expected, but it is far from remarkable.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:38 pm to
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Prove it.


Well for starters, between Orgeron and Canada one of them has an actual documented history of spending too much time in bars. And it’s not the one you accused of doing it.

So now your turn. Prove Canada was spending too much time in bars.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Check his post history. Every post made in response to me is an insult.


Another lie Ben.

I’m still waiting for you to answer my question about the talent on lsu’s line compared to Missouri, ole miss, Arkansas, and ULL.

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Every one of them calls me a liar.


You are a liar. You literally cannot help yourself.

Why do you feel the need to repeatedly lie on the Internet, Ben?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:55 pm to
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Open Your Eyes



Did mommy not give you enough attention? Here you go. Now run along.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:06 pm to
Prove Canada spent too much time in bars, Ben.

Talk to me about lsu’s OL talent compared to Missouri, ole miss, Arkansas, and ULL, Ben.

Stop repeatedly lying on the Internet, Ben.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:17 pm to
You're trolling a guy you don't know on the internet. That's supremely pathetic. You have nothing better to do than beg some guy to pay attention to you. So sad.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:23 pm to
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You're trolling a guy you don't know on the internet.


You’ve proven over and over again you have no interest in engaging in any meaningful thread related discussion, and that you are incapable of making intellectually honest arguments.

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That's supremely pathetic. You have nothing better to do than beg some guy to pay attention to you. So sad.


You have roughly 15x as many posts as I do on these message boards.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:39 pm to
“everyone loves to hate”

No one hates Coach O or his OC or any other LSU Coach. That’s just a easy way to try and discredit the opinions you disagree with and that’s normally used when people don’t have evidence to back up their stance.

In 5 yrs as a HC coach O’s best O scored 27 pts and averaged bout 20 for the 5 yrs. i’m not going to crucify him for what went on at Ole Miss, but he doesn’t have a very good history as a head coach, to this point in time, producing good offenses.

It should improve in the next three games, but how much I don’t know.
Posted by 72Tigah
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2010
1673 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:43 pm to
I really will be surprised if he doesn't step aside following the bowl game. Don't think that a new OC will be a "fix all". There is much to do athletically on both sides of the ball.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14409 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Check his post history. Every post made in response to me is an insult. Every one of them calls me a liar. The information on Canada is second or third hand but where there's smoke there's fire.


Please, tell us where you got your second-hand and third-hand information. Please.
Otherwise do not come in here saying "Canada spent too much time in the barroom." Over the last few weeks, there have been PLENTY of reasonable posters TRYING to discuss facts, using statistical and other evidence.

Many of us are TRYING to have a productive discussion. Then you come in with your gossip and aver that it is Gospel Truth, then have the audacity to challenge US to prove a negative when you yourself can not, or refuse to even try to be reasonable.
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