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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:53 pm to
That’s great. But the fact is he did in fact without the ball drop to his knees to block the plate. You don’t get to block the plate because you think you had the ball

I also think the correct call is what the umps did: call nothing

But if you want to review it and dissect the piss put of it like replay apparently wanted to, the fact is it was obstruction AND the runner was attempting to slide
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:55 pm to
Catcher was standing in the RH batters box prior to the OF catching the ball. He was preparing to block the plate. He was the reason there was a collision and he knew there would be one if the play was close. He was not reacting in order to field the throw. Catcher chose violence and he got rocked.
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 1:57 pm
Posted by lukestar
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:57 pm to
Terrible call, the catcher is blocking the plate without the ball!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:58 pm to
I think that they need to let the catchers get run over. The catchers won't block the plate if they can be tee'd off on. This would make the game safer after a few casualties
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

b. A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate), or otherwise initiate an avoidable collision. If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (regardless of whether the player covering home plate maintains possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate manner, he shall not be adjudged to be in violation of this rule.


quote:

A slide shall be deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner’s buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher.



You can’t lead with your knee in a slide.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:03 pm to
Also, let’s put the “he wasn’t try to slide” or “it was malicious intent” to bed



Leaning back and tucking back leg. That isn’t how you hit someone

Mickey you legit are slow

He couldn’t extend his feet because the catcher is multiple feet in front of the plate
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

But the fact is he did in fact without the ball drop to his knees to block the plate. You don’t get to block the plate because you think you ha


The fact is you are sounding like 10 seconds elapsed. Only 1 did. It was bang bang in real time. Stop using still frames on judgement calls.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Also, let’s put the “he wasn’t try to slide” or “it was malicious intent” to bed


That should be agreement for all. I believe all players did their job correctly.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:05 pm to
DP
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:06 pm to
[img]was bang bang in real time. Stop using still frames on judgement calls.[/img]

Dude it’s a REPLAY CALL

It’s literally looking at still frames and such. On the field he was called safe. They slowed it down just like I’m doing and said “nah, runner out”
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Dude it’s a REPLAY CALL It’s literally looking at still frames and such. On the field he was called safe. They slowed it down just like I’m doing and said “nah, runner out”


What I’m saying is it should never go to review there. Judgment calls are judgement calls. If it is reviewable it should only be in real time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:10 pm to
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You can’t lead with your knee in a slide.
Its literally how you start a slide



He is doing exactly how you do a standard slide



Best slider in all of baseball starting his slide



It’s exactly what the Oregon player looks like
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:12 pm to
b. A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate), or otherwise initiate an avoidable collision.

Imagine purposefully not bolding this entire part of the rule you quoted and bolded after telling multiple other people in this thread they’re embarrassing themselves
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Also, let’s put the “he wasn’t try to slide” or “it was malicious intent” to bed


I agree he should not have been ejected. It was not malicious intent. He tried to slide, but by rule it was not an appropriate attempt at sliding.

Honestly, if he had slid head first or even a split second earlier, he’s going to be safe and remain in the game.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22859 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I agree he should not have been ejected. It was not malicious intent. He tried to slide, but by rule it was not an appropriate attempt at sliding.


bullshite. It was literally a normal slide initiated at the normal time to slide when approaching home.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

but by rule it was not an appropriate attempt at sliding.
Dude you are wrong. Don’t do this. Every slide in the world starts with knee up





Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Pussified sports are the thing now. From this to the “safety’ base at first.


The extra base at first fixes the situation where the runner is required to run in foul territory but touch a base in fair territory. ‘Safety’ aside, it is better just for plays where the catcher or pitcher can make a throw to first where we arent arguing about interference.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26006 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

A slide shall be deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner’s buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher.


Did this happen or nah?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:18 pm to
I see two guys about to collide in .4 sec.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104791 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 2:19 pm to
So if a catcher goes 15 feet up the line to field a ball the runner has to start his slide there?

Of course not. The rule is the fielder starts his slide at the appropriate time according to the base. It’s not assuming when the catcher is way up the line

And the rule you quoted is for when the catcher has the ball. Does the catcher have the ball?
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 2:21 pm
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