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re: Do not miss this show on LSU tonight (May 13)

Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:15 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:15 am to
That's peak crazy/loser/stalker shite right there.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:15 am to
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t "O isn’t as good as Miles" when the screen shot you posted he repeatedly says that they're exactly the same.



if they are exactly the same, that means O isn't as good as Miles.

When its pretty clear that he is.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:20 am to
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saint tiger225




I forget why you follow me around & talk shite


what did i prove you wrong about, again? I honestly forget
Posted by ForLSU56
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:22 am to
Enjoyed it and like some others have posted, a 2 hour show with more player interaction would have really made it top notch.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:34 am to
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Im glad I can confirm that I am not the only person that gets some things wrong. Whew


#1- I've admitted I was dead arse wrong about Orgeron plenty before. I thought LSU could hire better, but cearly O was a perfect fit.

#2- your post made it seem like I thought Miles was a much better coach than Orgeron, when your screen shot clearly showed something different. In the very first sentence I said I thought Miles should be fired.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:36 am
Posted by learnthehardway
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:41 am to
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Lester Earl


So I may be one of the few but I find myself looking forward to your takes on a lot of stuff. I don't always agree with you and at times have found myself down right disagreeing. Right or wrong most of your posts seem well thought out.
Having said this I have a question for you... with the departure of Burrow, Brady, Munoz and possibly some other important pieces I'm forgetting what do you see for LSU football going forward? Were suitable replacements made? Are we deep enough with talent and remaining solid coaching to continue to build on last years success?
Some of the new drills we practiced last year combined with excellent situational play calling turned out an amazing product. do you expect a slight slip back or more of a wheels falling off type of outcome?
I personally believe that one of O's strengths is that he is honest with himself about what he does not know and thus tries to surround himself with people who can plug those gaps in knowledge and do so exceptionally well. have we hired well enough to do that? Was a one year crash course enough for us to retain and implement the style of play from last year?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 1:14 pm to
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When they showed CEO talking to the AUB defensive line players, he was telling them how great they were. Just showed how great CEO is!!!
Yeah, that was great. Talk about ALWAYS working.

I thought the show had too much slow mo.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 2:17 pm to
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with the departure of Burrow, Brady, Munoz and possibly some other important pieces I'm forgetting what do you see for LSU football going forward? Were suitable replacements made? Are we deep enough with talent and remaining solid coaching to continue to build on last years success?



Those are hard to answer, considering how unprecedented the turnover has been on LSU's staff, but I'll give you what I think. Appreciate the comments.

1) Linehan- not a huge fan of the hire, but lets face it, he's been in the NFL for a long time and that is hard to do if you aren't a good coach. His production as a playcaller has been all over the place, but if he can narrow down what has worked and apply that to LSU, then there is a nice building block for the offense. I wanted LSU to hire a guy familiar with the college game, and its been a while since Linehan has been involved with that.

And look, Linehan was brought on to a tune of $800k. That is PRICEY for a passing game coordinator. I have done a little research, and I haven't found a non Off/Def coordinator that makes that much. Let's call it what it is; they don't trust Ensminger to run the offense. This is essentially Linehan's show just as it was Brady's last year.

2)Russ Callaway- hired as lead offensive analyst. A lot of people were wondering how Joe Brady's imprint on the offense would carry over, and this is how. Callaway from what Ive read this spring is going to have a big voice in the offense. He is supposed to have a great understanding of the spread/RPO stuff that Brady did.

Tyler Tettleton is another guy who will help out with that.

3)Ensminger- then there is Ensminger. What does he do? Well I think he is the main QB coach. I think he leads meetings and such. Oversees other offensive positions. May call other people's plays on gameday? IDK.



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Are we deep enough with talent and remaining solid coaching to continue to build on last years success?


Yea, I mean there is NFL talent littered in the skill positions. What we saw Brady come in and do was play to the strengths of his QB. So can this current staff grasp what Brennan does best and play to that, they can be successful, sure.

They have some things going against them though. Not having this spring practice time could show up in spurts when the games start.The offensive line will have a lot of new faces, they haven't had time to play together. For all intents and purposes, this is Brennans 4th offensive coordinator in 4 years. That is a lot of voices.


I dont they will ever replicate last year, but I do think the running/passing combo can be pretty lethal. Love the backs they have. If the passing game gets going, you are going to see complete gashings by TDP and Emery. Get the ball to Chase and Marshall and Gilbert. The offense should be very fun.


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personally believe that one of O's strengths is that he is honest with himself about what he does not know and thus tries to surround himself with people who can plug those gaps in knowledge and do so exceptionally well. have we hired well enough to do that? Was a one year crash course enough for us to retain and implement the style of play from last year?


I do think O is known for that. Not sure he followed that path this offseason. I get it, he just had the best college season ever. The season ran a little long. You have to gear up and jump right into recruiting. No time lost.


Many, many people disagree with me but i didn't love some of the coaching moves this offseason from an age standpoint. I feel like you need some youthful coaches to connect with these HS kids. You need hungry, up & coming recruiters to hit the ground and work. You want guys that you can build a program with, promote, etc.

LSU lost these guys, who either coached a position and were involved in recruiting in someway, or both:

PCG Joe Brady 29
TE John Decoster 31
DL Meatball 32
DC Aranda 43

New Staff:

Kevin Faulk 43
James Cregg 46
Corey Raymond 50
Mickey Joseph 51
Bo Pelini 52
Bill Busch 55
Scott Linehan 56
Greg McMahon 60
Steve Ensminger 62
Bill Johnson 64

Mark Hutson 53
Tommy Moffit 56
Kevin coyle 64
John Robinson 84


Just got really old. I feel like the Faulk and Johnson hires were lazy. I thought you could have full removed Ensminger from the OC role & upgraded there with a clean slate. As I said above, dont love Linehan. Thought they'd bring in a younger coach that has been more engaged with the college game.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:00 pm to
So how will you react when slinger is calling the plays
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:04 pm to
Depends what Linehan’s plays look like
Posted by MONROE
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:27 pm to
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As I said above, dont love Linehan.


Me neither. And I agree with you in that the staff is too old.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:38 pm to
Go out on the pole, call Mr Haney
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:44 pm to
I fell asleep reading that, what day is it?
Posted by learnthehardway
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

 i didn't love some of the coaching moves this offseason from an age standpoint. I feel like you need some youthful coaches to connect with these HS kids. You need hungry, up & coming recruiters to hit the ground and work. You want guys that you can build a program with, promote, etc.


I agree 100% with this although my position is one of limited knowledge this seems to be fairly obvious as less than ideal.

I appreciate your replies
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:57 pm to
So true, I got crushed when I suggested (SEC Inside Look) viewing this show. I started a thread right after the Natty saying I watched this and i thought that Brady was running this Offense. I can tell by the eye test, especially every time they went out of their way to bring E into the conversation when talking about the offense. I wish I could bring up my post about this, I was chastised but that’s my gut feeling it was Brady’s off. and him calling plays.
Posted by twindavinci
Spring, TX
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:24 pm to
Callaway and Tettleton are the young guys that are out recruiting
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:45 pm to
From what I understand analysts can only “recruit” on campus.

But there’s been a prolonged dead period. No one is out recruiting.

I’m not sure where they fall as far as phone calls
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:51 pm to
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agree 100% with this although my position is one of limited knowledge this seems to be fairly obvious as less than ideal.



Bill Johnson had been out of the college game for 18yrs.

Scott Linehan for 17 years.

Kevin Faulk has no coaching experience & has never recruited. He’s in one of those low paying, grind it out, recruiting spots as a RB coach.

I’m not saying it’s doom & gloom. Just not sure it’s the ideal makeup of a coaching staff after laying a pretty good blueprint last year.
Posted by twindavinci
Spring, TX
Member since Feb 2016
523 posts
Posted on 5/15/20 at 8:09 pm to
Well that’s what Caleb Williams said
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 8:17 pm to
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Burrow with Steve 2018- 57% passer 16 TD
that o line was a mash unit. if you actually watched lsu fb, you would know that.

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Burrow with Brady 2019: 75% passer 60 TD

no one is arguing with you that brady wasn't a fantastic influence. that's not the issue. the issue is you thinking you can watch that documentary and know who was calling plays. it's stupid
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